[Typo3] Helping new users - was [menu item image gets cut off or truncated]

Erik Svendsen erik at linnearad.no
Sat Oct 22 09:37:55 CEST 2005


Hello Vincent,

> Thanks for the info.  That sounds pretty cool.  I will look more into
> TemplaVoila (How do you say that anyway? If it is in the docs, I'm
> sure
> I will discover it :-)).  I had seen TemplaVoila mentioned in the docs
> and on other sites several times, but it appeared that it
> substantially
> modified the BackEnd.  I did not think that was a good idea as I was
> learning because all the tutorials seemed to be based on the standard
> BE.  Also I wasn't sure it was ready for new users.  When I looked at
> the docs in "TemplaVoila! > Introduction", the "What does it do?" link
> has no info.  There is also no info in the users manual section.
> I briefly glanced at the Futuristic Template Building manual after
> your
> comment and it looks like what I probably need.  Thank you for the
> info.
> I will go study it.

TemplaVoila is, even if it's Alpha, ready for new users. Used it for one 
and a half year with very few problems. A new version are to come together 
with the TYPO3 4.0, and I think it adresses the few problems with TemplaVoila. 
It do some changes to the backend, but only a few one, and you do all your 
other stuff exactly like you did it before. If I going to predict, TemplaVoila 
is going to be the prefered way to put up new sites. 

> Yes, I studied the "Getting Started" tutorial and watched the
> quickstart
> video and studied the "Modern Template Building, Part 1" document.
> They
> were both very helpful in learning my way around.  I can see that
> Kasper
> put a lot of work in them.  But there is no clear path defined from
> there to guide you in creating a new site from scratch.  For example,
> I didn't know that most people considered the standard templates
> obsolete and did not use them until you mentioned it.
> So, I agree.  A getting started manual that summarized the different
> paths to take and the pros and cons to each for example would be very
> helpful.  I would then probably rename the current "Getting Started"
> to something more like "Introduction to Typo3".  But, that's just a
> thought off the top of my head :-).

I see you have taken nearly the same path as I did. And Modern Template Building 
is also a okay way to get a site up and running. But requires making HTML-files 
who are consistent. And you are correct, it's easy to get lost somewhere 
in between the getting started and other documentation, and a Introduction 
to Typo3 should have been written. Not only as a starting manual, but also 
as an introduction to TYPO3 in a more marketing sense. But writing documentation 
is a big task. But it looks like TYPO3 has more and better dokumentation 
than most other Open Source CMS. Even more than commersial solutions. 

> Although, for a site where excessive flexibility is not needed, one or
> two of the standard templates that were based on only typoscript
> looked like they might be pretty useful.  Where you can get a site up
> fast and customize the whole thing through the constant editor and not
> have to create any html templates.  I will probably play around a
> little more with that as well.

As I write before, I don't think the static templates are any future. I see 
your point, getting a site up and running fast would be nice, both for learning, 
evaluation and other means. I think the future is TempaVoila templates who 
are easy to install and can be configured in the backend (at some extent). 
But time will tell.


WBR,
Erik Svendsen
www.linnearad.no





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