[Typo3] Mailing lists, newsservers, forums and other animals.

Alex Heizer alex at tekdevelopment.com
Mon Oct 17 04:37:15 CEST 2005


Okay, here is a perfect example of one reason I do not like mailing lists!!

I received this reply to the thread, and *still* have not received 
Michael Stucki's post, or the post Michael responded to. I have yet to 
see a forum where the responses are displayed but the original post is 
absent from the thread.

Just my 2 cents...

Alex


Dimitri Tarassenko wrote:

>Hi Michael,
>
>On 10/16/05, Michael Stucki <michael at typo3.org> wrote:
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>>I guess the reason for this is very simple: A forum is ready in 30 minutes
>>while the newsserver took several weeks until it was running like it is
>>now. A newsserver (especially INN) is ugly complicated and I think this is
>>why nobody wants to provide it (even Sourceforge doesn't).
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>
>Hmm. And that's exactly the reason why _we_ should? Unless it is a
>specific Typo3 tradition to do things in the most complicated way
>possible (which kind of rings true;), I fail to see how this is the
>reason _not_ to do a forum.
>
>BTW, has anyone had any experience with M2F -
>http://www.mail2forum.com/wiki/Main_Page or XOOPS' CM2F? They both
>seem to do exactly what we are looking for.
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>>However, I have not seen anyone who prefers mailing lists over newsgroups
>>once he knew about it (can't compare with forum users).
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>Sorry, Michael, you can't use this argument anymore;) Because here is
>me, I tried and I prefer mailing lists. But then again, I have been
>proven to be an "irrelevant" statistical fluctuation;).
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>>>True, that's why I am not saying "let's scrap" newsgroups. I am saying
>>>"let's build a forum that would sync to them".
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>>OK, so let's do that! You are welcome to join the discussion in
>>typo3.teams.typo3org. Currently, our biggest problem is that there doesn't
>>seem to be a software that fits all our needs.
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>Can you quickly sum up what's wrong with M2F?
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>>>How about the fact that, say, install-linux only has the stuff
>>>starting Jan 2005? (Last time I checked).
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>>This is true. However the old posts are stored and will be published again
>>as we have found a solution to publish.
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>How about ... pipermail??? If it worked and still works for 2005, why
>can't it work for 2004?
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>>>And that's probably the key to the problem.
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>>The key to the problem is that this extension (yes there is one) is terribly
>>slow. If anyone wants to make it faster, please go ahead (the extension is
>>called "maillisttofaq").
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>Has anyone considered _NOT_ writing the extension (ooooh, blashpemy!
>there's gotta be an extension for everything) and just editing
>pipermail's templates so it would look like the rest of typo3.org?
>This is exactly what RedHat does for example with their mailing lists.
>
>--
>Dimitri Tarassenko
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