[TYPO3-dev] Getting started with Extbase/Fluid programming

[Mattias Nilsson]

Hi Elmar,

Why was this really necessary? Could you please explain what your point is?

/Mattias


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Elmar Hinz <t3elmar at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Quote: Mattias Nilsson wrote on Mon, 08 April 2013 11:09
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>
>  Hi Chris,
>>
>> First of all that is a really good step to get started with Extbase/Fluid
>> :)
>>
>
> Your statement sounds like the believe in the golden hammer, a well know
> antipattern.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Golden_hammer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_hammer>
>
> Before starting with extbase, one should as oneself:
>
> "Why do I need a fat ORM layer to solve my little task?"
>
> After all an ORM layer is primarly a try to workaround the object
> relational mismatch. If you don't have an object realtional mismatch in
> your data model, than why  using the overhead of an ORM layer?
>
> The answer is, that pi_base was worse as a solution, but not because of an
> overhead, but rather of the wording and the poverty of the API.
> That still is not a satisfying answer.
> Fluid on the other hand was a clear concecpt in the beginning. A template
> for the view, not more. Meanwhile people put that much logic into it, that
> the separation of model and view is in danger.
>
> The calculation of date should not be done in view helpers, but before the
> data is given to the view.
>
> Regards
>
> Elmar
>
>
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