[TYPO3-dev] Broken/missing (sym)links causing trouble

[Kasper Skårhøj]

Hi All, Kari,

I forgot to integrate a few smilies here, sorry. My mail was not  
meant as an attack on Kari. I tried to explain, create some  
perspective - and defend those hardworking core developers who are my  
most precious asset in the community at the moment. I took no  
personal offense.

My reply is factual based on my super-perspective as chief developer.  
I would however like to excuse the use of the word "narrowsighted"  
which was not necessary in the context. Please ignore that.

An as a wrote: It was just a "little candle", not a big flame.



Then I looked at what Kari wrote about symlinks:

> I vote for 4.5 earliest to take symlinks away. This gives some
> time resources to prepare for the change. This is my personal
> wish due I'm working totally on voluntary basis for all sites I'm
> maintaining and I should do also my research work without
> putting all my resources for measures which don't benefit
> my goals in more important issues.

To me it looks like if Kari has misunderstood what has happened, so  
let me explain it again:

TYPO3 has two types of symlinks known to most people:
- Internal symlinks inside the core itself (some you don't define by  
yourself)
- External symlink which links the core directory to multiple  
installations (some you create yourself)

The change regards ONLY the internal symlinks: Now, the core has been  
changed so these internal symlinks are not _needed_ anymore.

Incompatibilities you can expect:
a) Bugs in the core where we didn't fix it properly. Most are already  
found and done with. Full compliance expected for 4.0 Release.
b) Bugs in extensions which are not yet compatible with the new  
situation. We depend on extension authors to fix this.


_ALL_ incompatibilities of this change can be avoided simply by  
adding the internal symlinks again yourself!

So, eventually Kari should not have any trouble except adding a few  
symlinks between t3lib/, tslib/, gfx/, thumb.php etc. (see old  
create_symlink.sh script or document) internally - and everything  
will work find for him!


I really think its a misunderstanding, Kari.

- kasper






On Feb 17, 2006, at 13:33 , Kasper Skårhøj wrote:

>>
>> I hope this email doesn't cause any replies or flames, but
>> could make you dear developers to do something which
>> benefits whole community.
>
> I will light a little candle: Developers never do something that
> benefits the whole community; they do something that benefits various
> _parts_ of the community. This is the reality of such a big project
> like TYPO3.
>
> So what is irrelevant to you may be important to someone else. When
> we plan development the big picture wins over personal interests. We
> don't expect everyone to agree or even understand why we prioritize
> as we do. And we rather develop than adding the overhead of
> communicating our strategy in individual email replies.
>
> It would be a great help for the motivation of developers not to be
> charged with these narrowsighted claims.
>
> Thank you.
>
>> PS. What did I say about symlinks. ;-)
>>
>
> I don't know but probably something I would agree with.
>
>
>
> - kasper