[Typo3-dev] The Right Crew

[Robert Lemke]

Hi Michael,

Michael Scharkow wrote:

> this is again an example to the "secret" development model of TYPO3 that
> Patrick mentioned. I have neither seen a line of code of the new TER yet
> (in fact, I only gathered it's done from you asking for icons!), nor
> could one derive from Kasper's "never without GUI tools" that docbook
> could still be an option.

The point is this: I use DocBook internally because it was the easiest way
to convert Open Office into HTML and PDF (and other formats). So it's a
by-product which can be used in the future.

> Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the finished products that Kasper and
> you bring in (like Workspaces, TV, etc.), but the fact that they are
> only released *as* nearly finished products discourages participation
> because even if you have opinions on how things should be done, they
> *are* already done and you need to legitimize your desire to change
> stuff which puts at least me off.

This is mainly about time management. As soon as you publish certain things
you have to and you want to communicate. That is quite time intensive. I
therefore start with only very few people (two in this case) who give a
first feedback. Then I widen the group (next step will be announcing
details in the TYPO3.org team list).

If you promise to not ask questions about the TER2 the next two weeks, just
have a look at SourceForge CVS, there might be a surprise ... ;-)

> I know the reaction: "At least we actually come up with code and you
> don't" and that's true, but isn't there a possibility to give out code
> early so essantial changes can at least be proposed before things are
> finished?

Well, I developed the TER exactly like we fixed it in our concept - so
except that I use DocBook, there won't be big surprises. 

If someone decides to really join the development of the TER, I'm open to
discuss everything and give all information including and admin account
etc. - I just can't invest too much time into communication just to let
people know what I'm currently doing. You see what I mean?

-- 
Robert Lemke
TYPO3 Association - Research & Development
Member of the board
http://association.typo3.org