[Typo3-dev] The Right Crew

[dan frost]

I've been wanting to contribute to this thread (no 
pun intended...), but found this...

"Management and Virtual Decentralised Networks: 
The Linux Project" at
http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue6_11/dafermos/

This is really interesting, especially for the 
"Modularity" section (search for it - it's the 
first occurance). Linux appears to be modular 
enough to allow people to work on major projects 
without knowing about the other bits.

All of my ranting wasn't meant to be 
unconstructive - I think there is enough shared 
sentiment on the architecture to justify some 
*community* work (not foundation - let the 
community.. including me... prove its point 
without wasting the foundation's money).

Finally, how to take this forward?

Perhaps
- We seem to agree that a "playground" of some 
kind is needed. Let that playground be people 
first, and then when they've prooved themselves, 
add a little bit support it with infrastructure 
(extra CVS etc)

- All communication to the core team and wider 
community (including this dev list) is done 
through properly argued with understandable 
examples using RFCs (Request for comment)

- It is up to the core team / wider community 
whether any ideas are taken on board

- This is not necessarily part of the on-going 
TYPO3 project, but it somewhere where crazy ideas 
can confidently be tried, tested and dismissed (or 
used)

- It isn't a branch, it isn't a split and it isn't 
somewhere to try out completely un-related ideas

- It is self-regulating - whoever is interested in 
these kinds of things will get involved, but it 
takes no more effort from the core team

- It is endorsed (Ok'd) but not necessarily 
supported (financially or effort-wise) by the core 
team

I'm not stuck to any/all of these points, but I 
think that something like this will work and there 
are enough architectural ideas to start.

The reason that I don't think it should be 
completely linked to the T3A is that the T3A is 
concerned with less "blue sky" thinking - it needs 
to show that it is delivering results from 
members' money. A completely re-build of the 
architecture "just for fun" doesn't fit into that 
very well...

This structure should allow people to drop in and 
out of the crazy development playground but not 
get committed to anything.

dan


Kasper Skårhøj wrote:
>>But you will have to admit that one must feed himself and have to earn
>>money. 
> 
> 
> The problem today is that people (largely) arrange their lives so the car
> they drive and house they live in matches exactly the amount of money they
> make. Hence there is no room for flexibility in terms of prioritizing more
> time with family, friends - or volunteer work in the local football club or
> for TYPO3.
> In other words; You will probably not starve but you might have to drive a
> smaller car if you want to prioritize volunteer contribution!
> 
> Anyway, as Robert and Peter and me agrees, maybe the true problem is that
> the coordination is so bad that even the volunteers we do have are not able
> to really contribute.
> 
> - k