[Typo3-dev] TypoScript 2: a bit of a RFC

[dan frost]

This is kind of OT - but I think that the value of 
TS will be increased if we reduce what TS is meant 
to do.

That is - don't try to add to TS becuase it will 
make TS more useful... reduce TS to a limited 
language that performs a set of things well, and 
predicably. When you've achieved that, expand the 
language.

Thought #2 - do not invent a new language / syntax 
if one exists already. If you think TS is just a 
config language, use an XML language; if it is a 
functional language, use a python-like syntax; if 
it is a fully functional language, use PHP... 
there's no point in building new stuff when old 
stuff exists....



Mathias Schreiber [wmdb] wrote:
> Dimitri Tarassenko wrote:
> 
>> Plus, you're saving on having to type "page.10" twice, you should be 
>> comparing:
>>
>> page.10 = HTML
>> page.10.value = something
>>
>> to
>>
>> page[10](HTML) {
>>     value = "something"
>> }
>>
>> or even
>>
>> page[10](HTML).value = "something"
>>
>> On another hand, maybe we should follow the more common object
>> definition syntax, and emulate
>>
>> int i = 5;
>>
>> In other words,
>>
>> HTML page[10] {
>>     value = "something"
>> }
>>
>> This, however may be too much a shift for the current TS users.
> 
> 
> I like the idea of making TS much more complicate to write.
> I am already looking forward to helping all the fully lost users between 
> [s and )s and *s and so on...
> 
> Some claims from this thread commented:
> "TS should be updated"
> Fine, this seems to be wanted by a lot of people but to be honest I 
> still don't see the point.
> I can do everything I want with TS so maybe someone could enlighten me 
> with things he cannot do with a CONFIGURATION LANGUAGE, not a 
> PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE.
> If all the problems result out of the problem that I can't wrap wraps or 
> that HTML is somewhat different from TEXT and the TEXT Object works a 
> bit different in the GIFBUILDER context I think it is complete nonsense 
> to trade "my projects not updatable" for "yeah, now I can wrap wraps, 
> wooweee"
> 
> "We need to debug TS"
> Ok, I see the problem on one hand.
> I don't have the need for that - my stuff works.
> More complex TS is much like test-driven-development mentioned by Robert.
> Think BEFORE you write TS and get results without downtimes.
> 
> "We can do an IDE that writes and validates TS for us"
> Nice, ever remembered the numerous approaches to this issue?
> I remember 4.
> Bottomline: No Cash!
> 
> any other new miracles I don't know of yet?
> 
> Remember:
> You talk "recode all your TS if you want to update TYPO3".
> This would remove one of the key values of TYPO3 - updates without hassle.
> 
> *getting ready for a beating*
> Mattes
> 
>