[Typo3-dev] TS inconsistencies...

Hannes Schmidt mail at schmidt-net.via.t-online.de
Fri Jul 25 12:58:48 CEST 2003


Yes, it depends on point of view. Actually, quite a lot of things do. If
they didn't, we wouldn't need to discuss them here. Attached you'll find my
previous posting. It's a perfect example of why I think TS is
counter-intuitive.

Sorry for my crappy quoting. I hate Outlook Express.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mathias Schreiber [netfielders]" <ms at netfielders.de>
Newsgroups: typo3.dev
To: <typo3-dev at lists.netfielders.de>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Typo3-dev] TS inconsistencies...


> Hannes Schmidt wrote:
> > Typoscript is harder to learn, than it appears. Usually, I pick up
things
> > pretty fast. But with TS I had to spend a lot of time on a very simple
> > problem. See my previous postings.
>
> I think that this depends on a point of view.
>
>
> > The syntax is ok, allthough it could be streamlined a little bit
(nesting of
> > conditionals, proper comments, and so on). The main problem is the
> > semantics. A beginner level Typo3 user could never ever understand or
use TS
> > with just the documentation and examples at hand. One always needs to
look
> > at the PHP implementation of the various constructs, objects and
properties
> > in TS in order to get the semantics. This boils down to "Want to learn
TS?
> > Learn PHP first!"
>
> *neeeeeeg*
> Not acepted.
> I did several rather huge projects before I started looking at Typo3
> sourcecodes.
> Plus that a lot of people obviously learn pretty fast about TS.
> I do trainings all over germany and as soon as someone gets the concept
> behind TS they are able to work very fast with TS.
> Don't get me wrong, I am not the kind of "I can do anything with TS"
> Powerusers, but I know my way around.
>
> > Anyway, Typo3 is a great thing. And it's Open Source. So I'll just have
to
> > accept the shortcomings of TS. But begginners should be warned about the
> > complexity of TS.
>
> hmm, maybe there is a problem in the docs or something, but TS itself is
> quite self-explanatory.
>
> > And by the way, Typoscript IS a language. It has a syntax, so it is a
> > language. It's  not a programming languange but not all computer
languages
> > are programming languages. There are configuration languages,
specification
> > languages ...
>
> define(point_of_view); ;-)
>
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