[Typo3-UG Australia] chit chat
Paul Sanderson
pauls at iicservices.com
Thu Jun 17 05:39:43 CEST 2004
Hi Bernie,
> Well I can see that Typo will certainly grow with market acceptance -the
> lacking "feature" i see now is not a lack of features per se - but a
> simplified approach to developing multiple websites - or more
> importantly PORTING existing non DB websites into full dynamic CMS
> websites. For this I've been attempting to find a backend (Like Typo)
> that I might push more website specific work..
>
Though this comment proabably belongs on the developers/ideas lists, I
agree that Typo3 needs to be more 'newbie' friendly. It's true that it's
easier if one is a bit of a programmer with Typo3. Though that need is
lessening by the day as more extensions are designed which remove the need
to write TypoScript. I think Typo3 community can do both, supporting users
who want just the interface, which being highly configurable for those
developer/programmers out there. It also needs a lot of those people,
inbetween who can document/explain and convey complex ideas in easy to
understand ways.
> BTW - I'm more of a graphics person (An architect by trade actually)
> that a coder / programmer. I've done a fair bit of work working with a
> company that developed Dynamic back end systems for Defence (Army, Navy,
> RAAF) etc. I basically made the std imagary - they made the backend.
>
> So I've seen what it can do (And their system was awsome) but obviously,
> expensive. ( see http://www.compucraft.com.au ) - yes. ASP I know ;) yuk..
>
I don't see ASP as being bad, just purpose built. Built for specific
purposes, and within it's parameters of operation, it's fine. Step outside
those boundaries, and you will find the limitations. That's what attracts
people to PHP and other open source solutons, is that limitless
possiblities. Though, open source has a reputation for being hard to
grasp, I think support in the these communities gets better and better
everyday, once the community reaches that critical mass and starts
attracting non-programmers (web designers like yourself as opposed to web
programmers).
> Absolutely. There is a lot to be said for OSS - eg I use Thunderbird and
> Firebird (Highly reccomend both) has it hands down on IE and outlook..
> Its a terrific concept and it does serve to bring ppl together and
> discuss features vs wishing for them. :)
>
I'm a bit amoral when it comes to using applications. Though attracted by
the notions of freedom and other such principles. Basically, this is my
job, and with clients, I will take their preferences into account. I'll
use basically whatever system is requested, required or needed to get the
job done.
> the daily work env is nice with more than one person around (I did 3
> years solo and one tends to go round the bend somewhat) ;)
>
Yes, I think I'd like to network more myself. Often, half the work I get
comes from other consultants, who are just too busy to do the work
themselves! Though it is a bit slow at the moment for me, which is why I'm
responding to emails all day today.
> Absolutely.
> Its a fundamental way in today's society to have a conglomerate of
> smaller companies vs one large one. I function like that myself.
> Associate companies also helps you diversify your portfolio and gain
> larger jobs at the the same time.
>
>
> Might I ask then paul - what it is you do ? (url ?)
>
My website is http://www.iicservices.com
I will be creating putting my own site into Typo very soon, if I'm not
busy again soon.
I'm about to finish two typo sites (one's an upgrade) this week for two
companies: http://www.mailgust.org and http://www.valleychamber.com.au
They should be live next week!
--
Paul Sanderson
IIC for Businsess Services
Mob/SMS: 0414183404 Email: pauls at iicservices.com
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