[TYPO3-workspace] "LIVE workspace" tab functionality

Bart Dubelaar bart.dubelaar at logica.com
Tue Sep 27 09:22:44 CEST 2011


Hi Everyone,

I share Gabes experiences, particularly on the LIVE tab. After working a 
while and having published a few times, the LIVE tab fills up quickly. The 
need of this tab is not really clear and it is indeed confusing. Even more 
so because in this list view, one cannot identify the versions, no date 
stamp or followup numbering. I think this tab should not have such a 
prominent position, it should be configurable, auto-cleaned, and it should 
provide vital information like a date stamp.

In general it would be nice if there are more options to configure the 
entire behavior of the workspace module. I'm interested in the current state 
of the workspaces project and willing to contribute. Not sure what is the 
best way, submitting issues to forge?

Best regards,
Bart


Gabe Blair wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> 
> First off, the new workspaces extension is great - so far improved leaps
> and bounds over the old system, as far as I'm concerned.  Thanks for
> sharing your time and talents with us all in the form of this project.
> 
> There are some behaviors of the module that, I've found, can be somewhat
> confusing for users, and I figured I'd run these things by you all to
> see if I can get some insight.  Say a user creates a versioned record,
> and subsequently publishes it to the LIVE workspace.  In the "LIVE
> workspace" tab of the Workspaces module, they then see the following:
> 
> * A list of all existing versions of their record.
> 
> I think I understand the utility here - the user may theoretically want
> to revert to an older version of their record at any time.  However,
> might it make sense to provide clean-up this list over time, based on
> some conf setting, to remove versions that are over a certain age?
> and/or perhaps to provide a conf setting for having the non-LIVE version
> removed from the database after swap?
> 
> * Indication that each item is currently in the "Editing" stage
> 
> This is confusing, as the term "Editing" doesn't very well describe the
> state of a version that has been replaced, and is ostensibly only still
> present as a record of history and to preserve the potential to revert,
> if necessary.  Would it make sense to place a system stage of "Replaced"
> or something like that on records in this state?
> 
> * A trash can icon ("Discard this version from workspace") that does not
> work.
> 
> I think there's a bug report for this one -
> http://forge.typo3.org/issues/17065).
> 
> * "Publish to LIVE" and "Send to stage..." options in the "choose
> Action" selector at the bottom of the grid
> 
> Again confusing, due to the record being in more of a "replaced" state
> than actually "Editing."  And of course, the records in the "LIVE
> workspace" tab already belong to the LIVE workspace.  Would it make
> sense to hide (or rename) these options in the "choose Action" box, when
> in the "LIVE workspace" tab?
> 
>  From the way I've seen clients react to the new workspace module, it
> seems like the "LIVE workspace" tab is the most confusing point in the
> UI, and does make for a general uncertainty when first using the module.
>   Generally, I think the system could be greatly improved by a few minor
> changes, if the development team agree.
> 
> I'm relatively new to contributing input like this, so please forgive me
> if I strike an unusual tone.
> 
> Thanks much,
> 
> Gabe Blair



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