[TYPO3-ect] Eclipse Plugin Development Status

[ries van Twisk]

On Sep 21, 2007, at 10:42 AM, Elmar Hinz wrote:

>
>> A good IDE like Eclipse helps you a lot working with large code
>> bases, and in our
>> case many extensions. it will also help you quickly find bugs in  
>> code,
>> specially for PHP and php eclipse does a good job. I am not aware if
>> vim can do that, and I truly hope vim can do that (spot bugs in code
>> before it's executed).
>
> Nope. It's a slim fast editor not an IDE. The speed makes it  
> attractive.
>
>>
>> I have seen teh discussion about auto-completion for PHP, but this
>> is ofcourse really hard to solve for any IDE and I think even more
>> hard for PHP.
>>
>> Consider this:
>>
>> $a = getmeSomeclassname ();
>> $b = new $a;
>> $b -> autocomplete.....
>
> Right. This is a typical feature of an interpreted language and the  
> reason
> why context sensitve completion is not always possible and will probly
> never be for this example.
>
>>
>> The above is o fcourse really hard to solve with current PHP  
>> versions,
>> but will get better with 5.2.x and 6 versions where PHP can do some
>> form of type
>> hinting/checking.
>
> This should be possible.
>
> $b = new myExampleClass();
> $b -> autocomplete.....
>
>>
>> I think one big reason for using Eclipse is that we can develop
>> faster (I didn't say
>
> Speed is the point. I can't develop faster with current Eclipse,  
> but it can
> be big help for beginners.

But some people can developer faster with an IDE, that's why they are  
so popular,
and that why GUI's are so popular ...



>> I have been myself in quite a number of different industries (prepess
>> industry,
>> oil industry, yacht building industry and now web developments).
>> In each of the industries I have been in, all people use the tools
>> that does the work
>> the fastest for themselves. This is how it will always be.
>>
>
> Working in my holidays for a painter I learned that the  
> professional used
> simple sandpaper, for tasks the do-it-yourselfer uses "professional"
> machines. :-)

I have been doing quite a bit of woodworking myself, specially wooden  
boats.
And I do own some professional equipment that really does the job faster
then when I would do it by hand, and even more precise..

But the final touch is always by hand of-course, no doubt about it...

And no, I don't use spray paint... all painting was done by brush, alsi
sanding between the layers.. all by hand...

You are more then welcome to stop by and help varnishing the boat,
I need to put a couple of more layers on it :D

Ries

>
> Regards
>
> Elmar
>
>