[TYPO3-ect] Eclipse Plugin Development Status

Thu Sep 20 10:22:17 CEST 2007

Hi Ingo,

i used Zend a while ago, and never got the whole TYPO3 with debugging - it 
was a loading of hours ended up in errors.

Do you are able to debug TYPO3 from index.php, and when, how you do that ?
(I started with pdt eclipse but not as familar atm)

vg  Steffen

"Ingo Renner" <ingo at typo3.org> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:mailman.1.1190228679.12555.typo3-team-extension-coordination at lists.netfielders.de...
> Ernesto Baschny [cron IT] wrote:
>
>> Well, I have been using Eclipse for a while now and was using 3.2 with
>> phpEclipse until I read your post! I wasn't aware of PDT yet, and I
>> thought "hm cool this sounds more "official" than that phpEclipse stuff,
>> and from Zend, it cannot be bad", so I kicked the old installation and
>> installed Eclipse 3.3 with PDT.
>
> Yeah, and the best thing is that Zend Studio 6 (Neon) is going to be based 
> on it!
>
>
>> It looks cool, and most of it works ok, but I am a bit disappointed of
>> the default syntax highlighting and editing experience.
>
> Maybe I can export my color settings - I've chenged them to be like .phps 
> coloring.
>
>> For example copying and pasting
>> some block of code from one place to another one is now a pain in the
>> a** because the editor keeps indenting the NEXT line after the pasted
>> content is added.
> AFAIR this is a known issue.
>
>
> > And another thing that was nice in phpEclipse was the
>> highlighting of uninitialized variables (yellow underlines), which was
>> useful to find typos.
> already reported as a feature request ;-)
>
>
> > PDT doesn't seem to do that (yet? configuration?).
>> Also double and single quotes are highlighted in the same color in PDT,
>> while in phpEclipse I could recognize some "quoted text" which I don't
>> like pretty easy (maybe just a matter of configuration)...
>
> you can report all those things to bugzilla at eclipse.org. In fact they 
> already resolved most things I  put in there...
>
>
>> The whole HTML-validation stuff which is probably new as a "default" in
>> 3.3 is nice, but it takes so much resources that usually Eclipse is busy
>> doing some background stuff instead of letting me work.
> A knwon WTP 2.0.0 issue, should be fixed in WTP 2.0.1 coming soon (already 
> in RC phase)
>
>
> > And usually
>> html-templates in extensions are full of errors because they contain
>> multiple subparts with multiple <body> tags, etc. I even had a case of a
>> <meta charset="###CHARSET###"> or something and Eclipse was denying to
>> save the file because of "wrong character set"! Pretty annoying.. :)
>
> buuuh! spaghetti code...
>
>> Also I saw the "Refactor" methods I knew from Java development and I
>> gave it a try, but the function doesn't seem to do anything.
>
> Neon exclusive AFAIK - they have to kaap at least soemthing back to sell 
> it, right?
>
>> Overall I like Eclipse, but I also know Eclipse from the Java
>> development, and it seems that it is still a "long way to go" to reach
>> that. I was more satisfied with phpEclipse, but I feel that I cannot
>> stuck to that as PDT is here to stay. So if you have any tips on
>> configuration, they are welcome.
>
> Try debugging with XDebug and you'll fall in love immediately!
>
>
>> I also installed Mylyr and Mantis Connector, which is what we also use
>> internally, and it promises a very new approach while working. I haven't
>> entirely managed to grasp what it will do to me except than displaying
>> tasks and bug tracker reports, but I feel there is more behind that than
>> just that. :) Needs more time exploring its possibilities...
>
> Mylyn was built with focus on Bugzilla integration -as they work with it 
> on eclipse.org.So bugzilla got the best integration. We hope to bring the 
> mantis connector to bugs.t3o, too!
>
> Ingo
>
> P.S. In case you come to Karlsruhe I might show you something...
>
>
> 