[TYPO3-ect] Eclipse Plugin Development Status

Wed Sep 19 23:04:25 CEST 2007

Hi Ingo,

cool to hear that stuff!

Ingo Renner wrote: on 19.09.2007 21:04:

>> Well, I have been using Eclipse for a while now and was using 3.2 with
>> phpEclipse until I read your post! I wasn't aware of PDT yet, and I
>> thought "hm cool this sounds more "official" than that phpEclipse stuff,
>> and from Zend, it cannot be bad", so I kicked the old installation and
>> installed Eclipse 3.3 with PDT.
> 
> Yeah, and the best thing is that Zend Studio 6 (Neon) is going to be
> based on it!

So Zend Studio 6 will be using Eclipse Framework?

>> It looks cool, and most of it works ok, but I am a bit disappointed of
>> the default syntax highlighting and editing experience. 
> 
> Maybe I can export my color settings - I've chenged them to be like
> .phps coloring.

Yes, maybe you could, that would be interesting! Where is the file? ;)

> (...)
> you can report all those things to bugzilla at eclipse.org. In fact they
> already resolved most things I  put in there...

I will try to make use of the bugtracker and report some stuff. First I
still have to get to know what is a bug, what is a "feature" and what is
an "user bug". :)

>> And usually
>> html-templates in extensions are full of errors because they contain
>> multiple subparts with multiple <body> tags, etc. I even had a case of a
>> <meta charset="###CHARSET###"> or something and Eclipse was denying to
>> save the file because of "wrong character set"! Pretty annoying.. :)
> 
> buuuh! spaghetti code...

Not my code, but some "well known" extensions that have those nice
templates (sr_*_register et al).

>> Also I saw the "Refactor" methods I knew from Java development and I
>> gave it a try, but the function doesn't seem to do anything.
> 
> Neon exclusive AFAIK - they have to kaap at least soemthing back to sell
> it, right?

Ah, buuuuuhh!! shame on them! :)

>> Overall I like Eclipse, but I also know Eclipse from the Java
>> development, and it seems that it is still a "long way to go" to reach
>> that. I was more satisfied with phpEclipse, but I feel that I cannot
>> stuck to that as PDT is here to stay. So if you have any tips on
>> configuration, they are welcome.
> 
> Try debugging with XDebug and you'll fall in love immediately!

Yes, I have done that once, long ago when I had some time to experiment
with phpEclipse. I have some developer servers (linux) separated from my
workstation (Windows) but have the project files mounted (smb or nfs)
directly on the server. This should work somehow for debugging, right?

Once I even got that nice little profiler to work which was so amazing I
called all people around here to watch the nice output. But never used
it again.. Should! Time.. time.. I need more time!

>> I also installed Mylyr and Mantis Connector, which is what we also use
>> internally, and it promises a very new approach while working. I haven't
>> entirely managed to grasp what it will do to me except than displaying
>> tasks and bug tracker reports, but I feel there is more behind that than
>> just that. :) Needs more time exploring its possibilities...
> 
> Mylyn was built with focus on Bugzilla integration -as they work with it
> on eclipse.org.So bugzilla got the best integration. We hope to bring
> the mantis connector to bugs.t3o, too!

Yeah, it works! We've been using Mantis 1.1.0a4 here, just a minor bug
needed to be fixed in the shipped api/soap/ interface to get it to work
with Mylyr Connector!

> P.S. In case you come to Karlsruhe I might show you something...

Would have been nice, but again that little "time" problem. Currently
not possible to go anywhere! :(

Cheers,
Ernesto