[TYPO3-ect] T3N Article

[Patrick Rodacker]

JoH wrote on 17.01.2006 19:28:
>>>> Hm. For the out-of-the-box line my vision is, that the beginner has
>>>> not to do with TS at all. He should only have to select a skin he
>>>> likes. Then there should be a form to upload a logo, editing some
>>>> values like name, url, etc. That is the reason why it should be
>>>> based on well done and flexible to configure TS.
>>> Full ACK
>> I see the point of using well done and flexible to configure TS but
>> let
>> me explain some issues why I think the packages need support of
>> external HTML templates for layout purposes:
> 
> No explanation necessary - look at the Golive Tutorial and you will see that
> they are already there.
> It's almost horrible to work with those TS-only templates provided by the
> current static templates.
> I know what I'm talking about since the first TYPO3 sites I made in 2002
> were done without any HTML templates.

Well that's a new style of discussion to me ... do not allow any other
arguments than you own? My understanding of a discussion is about
letting your conversational partner explain their point of view before
stating you own thoughts. Anyway, you are right about one thing: using
external HTML templates and offering the configuration like described in
the 'Golive Template Integration' tutorial is no way to provide packages
following the KISS principle.


> As long as we stick to different rules that are necessary to make things
> available when working with TV I don't see any problems.
> The only thing I would like to avoid is the autoparser since TV is the
> official successor and it doesn't help very much while doing things without
> TV.

Supporting the autoparser is not necessary but supporting external
templates is, so I hope we will be able to provide a well configured TS
structure and a set of markers described in the documentation to offer
the user full access and control about the layout / design of the
website without dealing with TS.

Regards
Patrick