[TYPO3-core] RFC: #9863: [Feature] Adding sysext tsbrowser
Uschi Renziehausen
typo3news at otherone.de
Wed Dec 3 11:19:37 CET 2008
Hi Dmitry,
Dmitry Dulepov wrote:
>>> And I still would like to know why cannot such extension be
>>> installed by you from TER ;)
>> Well, of course I am able to install it from TER, but template
>> TypoScript and TSConfig are what you have to do with from your first
>> typo3 site onwards without any ext installed. So convenient ways to deal
>> with it should be provided by the core itself. Franz H stated in a
>> posting further up that he thinks it sufficient "to write some
>> documentation about additional Core enhancing extensions, maybe also as
>> help text". Thinking back to my first half year with typo3 I must say
>> that I disagree with him here. Especially beginners are completely lost
>> in the documentation, and you will not install an ext before you have
>> understood what ts is for. You might go the irc channel or the news
>> groups and there you might get the tip. In my eyes that adds complexity.
>
> But this is different thing. Beginners will not be able to do any better even with Steffen's extension because the whole work with TS templates is not described properly anywhere (except some books). It is a question of tutorials and education. Unlike many other systems TYPO3 does not have good beginner's level tutorials :(
>
A completely different thing it is not, at least not in my eyes, as it
provides an easy way to get a clean view to see what is configured
already. This counts for experts like Steffen, who coded the ext, which
he would not have done if he had not thought it useful for himself as
well, intermediate users as myself and beginners. Imagine a tutorial for
beginners that guides them to that view and then gives explanations of
how to find it all out in tsref.
You know how I finally found out how all this FE rendering stuff is
done? By exploring css_styled_content/static/setup.txt and
constants.txt. Not simple, but effective, but I am sure that that
overview would have helped me a lot.
Other than that you are right, we need beginner's tutorials, perhaps a
revival of fc bigfeet :-)
Uschi
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