[TYPO3-v4] Implications of RFC Bug #16966: be_layout setting "none" is not working and be_layout should not be inherited automatically

[Sebastian Fischer]

Hi all,

if seen, that the RFC was through the list and commited in mearly 16 
hours. On the oneside its nice to see things getting done, on the 
otherside there was no time to give a -1 anymore.

Why im moaning is, that the implications are not discussed well enough imho.

I got the point of what Joey explained and accept that there are 
situations where it could come handy to have it like Joey discribed. 
That said i dont want to change it back in total.

But there is still the other side that there are editors working with TV 
for a long time by now. If those are situated with the new Gridview and 
Layout inheritance concept they will use it like they learned it.

So they are sitting there seeing those both fields and are using them 
like "hey i know that, i can handle it, cool first time i dont need to 
ask my supporter for what the hack this could be".

If bad things come together, so always, they use it for some weeks until 
they realize that there is something wrong. The page has the wrong 
layout or it just doesnt work like expected. Worse case would be that a 
head editor makes clear that he/she was WRONG.

So what we got? We have two different implementations of backend 
layouting TV and Gridview. We have in both the mearly same two fields. 
And we have 2 completly different behaviours.

Heck, give me two week summer holyday and even i'm not able to tell them 
apart. Neither which one does what.

So to bring both worlds together, the new current implementation and the 
implementation of TV i would like to find a solution that makes it 
possible to suit either cases.

To cope with both conzepts we could have something like
mod.web_layout.gridview.inheritance = nextLevel
mod.web_layout.gridview.inheritance = both

Having the new concept as default is fine, as long as it would be 
possible to have the TVbehaviour configurable.

What are your ideas?

Greetings
Sebastian