[TYPO3-templavoila] Public Release of the TV Framework I Use

[Ron Hall]

Hello Fernando,

The report you commented on is about a feature request for a DS tag  
for including external stylesheets and does not in itself provide the  
look I have constructed in my site package.

The feature request you are interested in will have a title of  
"Replace Inline Styles with Class Styles in TV Page Module."  
Unfortunately I cannot give you the exact number of the report as I  
inadvertently entered more than once. Therefore someone will at some  
point delete all but one of them. But it will be either 0011516,  
0011517, 0011518 or 0011519.

Those reports have a file attached showing the changes needed. Keep in  
mind these changes do not actually change the look of the page module  
but they give the CSS hooks for the developer to do so by adding CSS  
and JavaScript in the DS.

Keep in mind these are simply feature requests and the decision of if  
or how they are implemented is up to Dmitry who is responsible for the  
development of TV.

Thanks for the interest,
Ron


On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:24 AM, Fernando Arconada wrote:

> Ron,
>
> I have written the RFC #11521 in the list typo3.teams.templavoila
> Would you mind to attach a patch with your look&feel changes? your
> look&feel it's a really big improvement
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Fernando Arconada
>
> El Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:26:36 -0500, Ron Hall escribió:
>
>> Hello Fernando,
>>
>>
>>> a) you have made some changes to improve the BE layout. Would you  
>>> mind
>>> to
>>> make a patch and submit it? that look&feel it's something that TV  
>>> must
>>> have
>>
>> Most of the changes are CSS and JavaScript in the DS. But to allow  
>> those
>> to work I had to add CSS classes in one TV file. This modified TV  
>> file I
>> use was recently submitted as a feature request. I wish I could  
>> give you
>> the exact number in the bug tracker but the system acted up and I
>> inadvertently submitted the same request multiple times. But the  
>> number
>> will be either 0011516, 0011517, 0011518 or 0011519
>>
>> I also submitted two other feature requests (0011520 & 0011521)
>>
>>
>>> b) I was working in a similar project and i was considering using  
>>> YAML
>>> (yaml.de is a CSS framework) to get something like the one you  
>>> got. Why
>>> you are using you own CSS framework and not YUI or YAML? i think  
>>> that a
>>> "standard" framework it's better for everyone
>>
>> The reality is that there is no "standard" framework out there. There
>> are popular frameworks (YUI, YAML, 960 grid and blueprint) but no  
>> matter
>> which you choose most people will have to learn it. I am aware of  
>> YAML
>> but have not studied it. It has been sometime since I looked at YUI  
>> and
>> when I did it was brief. I am more familiar with 960 gird and  
>> blueprint.
>> The developer of 960 is a friend of mine and the best front end  
>> coder I
>> know.
>>
>> I have learned from CSS frameworks particularly when it comes to the
>> reset, but at least with the way that 960 and blueprint handle the
>> widths of content blocks they do not mesh with how I want my sites to
>> work. I do not know if YAML or YUI do the same. In the 960 and  
>> blueprint
>> frameworks, they use classes to set widths of content blocks. In the
>> case of blueprint it would use a class of "span-12" to indicate the
>> width of a content block and if you wanted that to be half as wide as
>> wide then you would need to change that to "span-6." I do not like
>> changing the HTML source for changes like this. I prefer to name the
>> block (e.g. contentBlock-1) and set the width in my CSS file. This  
>> means
>> if the width of that block changes I just need to edit the CSS file  
>> not
>> multiple HTML files.
>>
>> I respect these frameworks and actually use a blueprint/960 type
>> approach for handling table columns widths in the RTE (maybe some  
>> day I
>> will have time to document that), but I have chosen the route I have
>> because it fits how I work.
>>
>>
>>
>>> c) I miss some technical domentation in the side of Typoscript. For
>>> example how did you do the conditional include of the  
>>> "field_feature".
>> The conditional for the feature is in the core TypoScript of the
>> framework but it is an automatic thing. If the user puts content in  
>> the
>> feature area then the feature and its pre & post code objects will be
>> generated. If the user does not put content there (or it is hidden)  
>> then
>> none of those items will be generated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ron Hall
>> Busy Noggin, Inc.
>
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