[Typo3-marketing] SYSTEMS

[Robert Lemke]

On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 19:21, Daniel Hinderink [TYPO3] wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> It seems that none of you were there. Or at least I did not hear from any of
> you.
> 
> Anyway, that is my general impression of this years SYSTEMS: many of the big
> names of the CMS-trade were not present.
> 
> However, we did have a look at:
> Infopark
> ContentServ
> Stellent
> EZPublish
> Webedition
> 
> And some others, I will not mention here.
> 
> The most interesting meeting was definitely with ezpublish, a well known
> Open Source CMS from Norway.
> Ezpublish is produced by the company of the same name (www.ez.no), 25 people
> open source producer, who is also offering services, like implementations of
> their software.
> Ez is offering a dual licence model: companies that want to build
> applications with ez and then want to be able to sell them, can buy a
> commercial license. However, EZ is also GPL.
> Interesting model for creating some income, but it is seemingly not where
> they generate a lot of turnover.
> 
> Architecture-wise, ezpublish is reminding a lot of Zope in terms of how
> things are adressed in the system. The backend seems pretty awkward compared
> to TYPO3. A strong point is the performance, ez claims to server 700 hits
> per second with ease.
> 
> Infopark was pretty hard to assess, they were not too pleased with informing
> us, after they heard the name TYPO3. It seems they have just lost a major
> pitch :-) Who is doing the Nuremberg hospital?
> Anyway, then software is based on Objective C and does make a pretty grown
> up impression. There are many modules (which all seem to cost 24700,- Euros,
> no matter which one you want)
> 
> ContentServ is a small company and they were one of the sickly-built fish,
> that they should really wake up to see, that they have no future in one pool
> with a shark like TYPO3. They do have a nice low-tech implementation of a
> php-based workflow-designer. The rest, as I said, is fish bait.
> The same goes for webedition. It is very cheap, but it is also very weak.
> They advertise their project with slogans someone must have left in the hall
> from systems 1998 (website editing without html knowledge...) and the nicest
> thing about their stand was the brand-spanking-new 17"-powerbook G4 :-)
> 
> That leaves Stellent in the ring. And this is the shark that eats things in
> our LAMP-pool for breakfast. Stellent really is a document management
> system, with a trillion of features, integration with every big name in pro
> software on the planet and a top reputation for it's innovativeness and
> overall drive.
> 
> Stellent has served the CMS market as an aside, but is not at all focussed
> on it in my view, so go and draw your own conclusions...
> 
> >From a marketing perspective, the CMS-vendors are obviously trying to move
> upmarket by offering more open concepts, modularity and multi-format input
> and output are the big claims today. On the other hand, CMS-functionality
> has now been built into so many other products, from DMSs, Web Application
> Servers, Unified Messaging Systems (Domino, DAVID...) and finally the
> desktop, that the pure CMS is not really a very attractive application
> anymore. 
> 
> It is more en vogue to stress the glue-like function of integrating other
> applications and reusing and transforming contents, managing aspects of
> users stored elsewhere and processing external data for webbased display,
> than to stress native functionality.
> 
> In short, it is about a rich toolbox, not a complete and monolithic
> application. That's my impression.
> 
> Hey, and what about TYPO3?
> Nowhere to be seen, but let's wait for CeBit 2004...
> 
> Cu there!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > I am off to systems trade fair tomorrow, which is the more professional
> > "CeBit" in Germany.
> > I will meet some press people there (iX and c't) and will do the usual
> > stroll through the competitions area.
> > 
> > Like last year, I will send a short summary on my "market research" to you
> > afterwards.
> > 
> > I will be happy to receive similar reports from your local trade fair
> > visits.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
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