[TYPO3-english] worried about 4.x (6.x)

[Steffen Gebert]

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Hi Andi,

although I've promised to not respond to any of your mails, here's my
feedback.

> Jigal stop with those false accusations too as they are simply wrong!
No, basically it is true. You've sent me your SSH key, but then nothing
happened, as always. You expect everybody to do everything for you, but
yourself, you do nothing.

> I spent nights in 2008 over months with other t3o people what you
> probably have forgotten also many other contributions - also for
> templavoila - check the ter ;-). dont forget the tutorials which are
> still mentioned/linked often..
I don't care at all what you did 4 years ago. 4 years! Man, that's a
long time. You keep us telling since 4 years that you've spent your
nights for TYPO3? Who here does not? And not just for a couple of months!

> If you get talked by people of the association like me well than
> please do it yourself. I mean styling a forum. this is simply no
> democracy. i dont need the forum i am happy with list by the way. did
> anyone who actually wanted the forum respond - NO so simply stop this
> part of t3o and invest that time in better things. This is what we
> decided after the response from t3a member.
Why do you say "stop investing time there"? YOU offered that you can do
it. Result: Nothing. How is a forum styling and democracy related?
You're writing nonsense all the time! You're just demanding other people
to do things for you. Ah.. sorry, I'm repeating myself, but well..
that's what your emails basically contain. You repeat yourself over and
over again. It's really a pain.

If you don't believe me, here you are:
http://lists.typo3.org/pipermail/typo3-english/2012-July/081684.html

I don't care, if you've been pissed off! You promised to do it and did
simply nothing (okay.. you wrote long mails instead, once again)!

And you're deciding to stop doing things after an email by a T3A member.
A T3A member? Not even the president of the TYPO3 Association?
Seriously? Read your own postings. How many members of Core teams,
Design teams etc. would have to quit, if they would follow your path.
Read twitter. How many "you suck" tweets have been sent because of 6.0,
FLOW3 -> Flow, the logo etc. You're childish, sorry, I can't say
anything else.

Don't expect me to read your answer, if it's longer than my email.

Kind regards
Steffen

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On 10/11/12 8:46 AM, Andi wrote:
> Jigal stop with those false accusations too as they are simply wrong!
> 
> If you get talked by people of the association like me well than please do it yourself. I mean styling a forum. this is simply no democracy. i dont need the forum i am happy with list by the way. did anyone who actually wanted the forum respond - NO so simply stop this part of t3o and invest that time in better things. This is what we decided after the response from t3a member.
> 
> I spent nights in 2008 over months with other t3o people what you probably have forgotten also many other contributions - also for templavoila - check the ter ;-). dont forget the tutorials which are still mentioned/linked often.. 
> 
> let's see what will happen in future and how many more people will move away.. If this is the goal simply continue like now. 
> 
> enjoy what you have and be the change you wanna see in the world. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Andi's iPhone
> 
> On Oct 11, 2012, at 13:22, Jigal van Hemert <jigal.van.hemert at typo3.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'll answer for the sake of the rest of the community. Andi, please stop writing the same false statements over and over again. So far your contribution to the project have been limited to complaining and spreading false accusations.
>> You've promised to help with the styling of the forum interface (or have some of your great developers do this), but after various requests for your user data you still haven't done a single thing.
>>
>> On 11-10-2012 3:43, Andi wrote:
>>> it is most of core developers who dont care since yearsas
>> [...]
>>> Make it fair - support Dmitry, Toleiv Ron Hall, Jeff Segars etc.
>>
>> Dmitry, Tolleiv and Jeff *are* core developers. If they need anything in the core they can add it themselves or ask other devs to help with it.
>>
>> TemplaVoilà has been developed by core developers and has always been maintained by core developers.
>>
>> If TemplaVoilà is so extremely important for you and your clients it would be logical that you would have some of your developers help with fixing bugs for TemplaVoilà or develop new features. You have never supported TemplaVoilà in any way, except perhaps by complaining about everything else.
>>
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>> Jigal van Hemert
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>>
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