[TYPO3-english] Why there is not an " official " online Forum for TYPO3 ?

[Ahmed Moosavi]

Hello Andy ,
Thanks for you reply :)

I know there is a lot of German resources for TYPO3 , sometimes I use 
online translation tools to have a solution . But I dont know why this 
community forces it's new comers to be very strong people and hard to 
find the facts :D Yes we can find the solutions in 5 hours , that it may 
be found in 10 minutes . But finding the solutions is hard.

I'm thinking about expanding typo3 to the whole world and it's sorrowful 
to see something like Joomla expands more than TYPO3 . Typo3 will have 
permanent wastage by this way , Should we point out regionally about 
typo3 or it's allowed to look to international community around it ?

It is not a good advice to learn a language to have better CMS 
resources. I may learn the German language but you cant say to all of 
people to learn German.

You introduced one of the Forums about TYPO3 , It's not also official 
but maybe helpful. But if you compare it with "Joomla" Forum you will 
find the Joomla forum just today before noon had hundreds of posts , but 
what you offered as TYPO3 forum has not just a one post for today. And 
this relationally is not named Active or very active.

By the obsolete English tutorials that TYPO3 has from many years , 
Personally I learned basic TYPOSCRIPT before knowing there is something 
like FlexForm which you can make the sites by mouse. I'm not silly as 
well :D But what I'd firstly found readable for learning TYPO3 it was ( 
TYPOSCRIPT ) :p And I've learned the hardest way that and I can make 
sites by typo3 before I know what can I do with flexforms . This problem 
still exist , The TYPO3 does not introduce a comfortable Roadmap to the 
English users and with an Opensource community when you lose a region of 
the world you will lose expansion. And it seems there will be more 
attendance needed for English users.

Also pointing to the physical meetings of the community that covers only 
  hundreds of people also naturally is good and needful and brilliant 
but not enough to cover what Typo3 can do with the world by the virtual 
internet paths. The typo3 power is to weaken by this way. And can be 
more stronger.

All the best
Ahmed

Andreas Becker wrote:
> Hi Ahmed
> Which problems do you actually have?
> 
>    - TYPO3 offers lots of social activities all around the world.
>    - International worldwide Confernces
>    - They go skiing and diving
>    - Meet in many many UserGroups all over the world
>    - They have this Mailinglist
>    - Very good German Forums (advice - learn a bit German it helps! a lot)
>    - Very good and very active English Forums -
>    http://webempoweredchurch.com/support/community/
>    - Lots of German How Too sites
>    - Very good - I guess the best - How To Sites are in English
>    http://webempoweredchurch.com/support/howtos/
>    - Lots of German Video Tutorials - but they are quite expensive!
>    - Lots of good English and German Literature
>    - a huge developer community which meets here on the mailing list and
>    which is usually also willing to help you - most of them!
>    - They have an University and many other special Training Meetings
>    - gives you one of the best products in the CMS Market - with a very high
>    price value - checkout some German Agencies what they charge for a simple
>    site and their customer books are full as otherwise they would not charge so
>    much!
>    - A very good and qualified outsourcing community which delivers high
>    value TYPO3 Products to the market.
>    - all of them are connected to one Line which is actually the
>    mailinglist. There have been already so many discussions about forum or
>    mailinglist and I guess you will never change TYPO3 from getting rid of the
>    mailinglist but exactly only this would help to build up a centralized forum
>    - but why should they do this, who takes care of it, what about all those
>    other existing forums and the people which earn there money with it ?? Best
>    use the mailinglist as it is, as it is the by far fastest way to get a
>    response, much faster than any forum!
> 
> 
> So again the question - What are you actually missing? What should a Forum
> help you to get what no already exists? What would you like to contribute to
> get this missing thing working?
> 
> Andi
> 
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Ahmed Moosavi <r.mesbah at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello ,
>> Why typo3 has not an official centralized online active forum like most
>> of other content management systems ? I know there is some unofficial
>> English forums but they are not active as this mailing list is.
>>
>> The mailinglist is good but an online forum has better structure for
>> searching and subscribing and archiving and some other editorial options
>> like from better quoting and threading to the attachments and better
>> graphical GUI that absolutely effects on better performance for Typo3
>> assigned times . Also I think mailing lists is very coldest in
>> relationship than an standard forum and a forum makes better and warmer
>> community for this association.
>>
>> Typo3 lacks some social basis and I think there is not a clear Roadmap
>> for a new user to go and most of new users is stumping as they confuse
>> about creating just a simple site , and it makes a huge lost in the way
>> of a biggest community that decreases the TYPO3 developments.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Ahmed
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