[TYPO3] No tutorials? Draft idea attached...

[dave ashton]

True words Dmitry, but with Fantastico install of typo3, I can have a base
install site with a dummy template up and running in 30 mins. And have used
typo3 for very small sites. CMS's should be for the small to the very big
(maybe using typo3 for a 4 page site is over kill, but I'm not going to
learn joomla or similar just to use on small sites!!!)

Look at the joomla site for what it has been used for...very big sites, so
joomla is enterprise level.

I'm not ranting about the merits of joomla or similar CMS's, just pointing
out, the working of the CMS's in general.

You are expert level. You probably find all aspects of typo3 easy to work
through as you have reached that level.
Do you think future developers will jump on board with using typo3 and
dismiss other CMS's if they knew the amount of learning involved, etc?

Are you saying you cannot develop an enterprise level site with others and
thus typo3 is the only enterprise level open source solution so just get on
with the learning curve no matter how long it takes?

Basically, i'm saying, if you have not used a CMS before, which would you
chose if you knew all the options - learning curve, functionality, community
size, clear documentation, etc.?

Would you want the situation in a few years where, typo3 developers have
started using other CMS's as typo3 has too much of a reputation of being too
hard to learn.
I think this is unlikely, but I read too many posts on the net to say, typo3
is really hard to learn and it seems this is only true with typo3.

All this is academic.........the typo3 developers seem to be making the
solution easier to learn with templavoila, etc. and they have their own
methods and ideas of implementation. All a continuous process and like all
humans, some we get wrong.

Like I said, typo3 i think is the best open source solution I've come
across, just wish it was clearer to understand with more English resources
and tips, that's all!!!

Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Dmitry Dulepov [mailto:dmitry at typo3.org] 
Sent: 05 October 2006 11:19
To: typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de
Subject: Re: [TYPO3] No tutorials? Draft idea attached...

Hi!

dave ashton wrote:
> I think I saw recently, joomla being up for a CMS award with Drupal,
> etc....Eh!!, How did they get there when typo3 is clearly better?
> Simple, a web designer can learn joomla quicker and easier, more docs. and
a
> bigger community.

One remark here: typo3 and joomla has different target auditory. To make 
it clearer: you would not expect phpNuke and typo3 really to compete? 
Same for joomla and typo3. Typo3 is much higher level, it may do much 
more things than joomla. It is for professionals. Joomla is, like you 
said, for those who want to learn and something quickly even if he 
misses certain features. It all comes to targets. Typo3 was never 
targeted for John Doe who sits near PC 20 minutes per day and makes his 
personal home page about specific kinds of cactuses. Typo3 is enterprise 
level CMS for much larger projects and much more serious auditory.

Another comparison: Daewoo and Ferrari are both cars, both can be 
driven. But they are definitely for different people. And Daewoo-class 
machines will be compared only with machines of the same class. Btw, 
Daewoo is superb in its class but it is not a Ferrari. Different target 
audience. That's all.

-- 
Dmitry Dulepov

Web: http://typo3bloke.net/
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"It is our choices, that show what we truly are,
far more than our abilities." (A.P.W.B.D.)
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