[Typo3] Some feedback to TYPO3 marketeers

[Michael Stucki]

Hi Simon,

I don't want to discuss about any of the moral aspects, here are just some
technical things to consider...

> You might note that the installation guide for Windows has no
> information about trouble-shooting a failed installation. Maybe I could
> have asked the list but at that stage I'd spent too much time on my
> Linux install. However, I still wanted to explore, so I decided to see
> in the Windows would work out of the box. It didn't, I quit.

Isn't it great that TYPO3 contains a lot of modifications just to make it
work on a system it was not designed for?

If you think that there is not enough documentation on that topic, consider
that it probably would be easier to remove all these changes again... :-)

>> This is hardly Typo3's fault. You can use GraphicsMagick, with a more
>> stable API; there are wrapper functions for the different IM versions,
>> and  you can configure all that in the install tool.
>> 
> It is more the installation path I followed was a rocky path and I gave
> up. I myself have an image manipulation tool mysel, it uses GD _only_
> and it works on multiple versions of GD. Sure it is simple, which is why
> I was looking at T3 to save me some development time.
> 
> I'm sure there was a successful path for me. But I just found the
> configuration of T3 very over-wrought. It mentions GD, IM and GM, plus
> it has about 10 config settings for getting IM to work, and then states
> that some of the settings might not work. Hopefully the next version
> uses only one of these three graphics libraries.

So in fact you prefer ease over flexibility and speed? I'm sorry.

TYPO3 uses GraphicsMagick/ImageMagick for doing graphic operations because
it is much faster than GD is! However it still uses GD because some things
are not possible with IM/GM.

It is no problem to drop support for ImageMagick and force everyone to use
GraphicsMagick instead. No problem if you are going to give support for
everyone getting problems with this...

>>> The first of these things is the accessibility of expertise and
>>> networking tools. The large majority of people using cms tools are
>>> laypeople building small sites. Something like Drupal is always going
>>> to  be more accessible and more enjoyable. Just compare using a
>>> newsreader  with a beautiful forum like drupal.org.
>> 
>> I agree a forum would be easier to use than a newsreader for most
>> people.  While there isn't an official forum for T3, there are probably
>> some  unofficial ones (I know of a few German ones).
>> 
> Hopefully, many agree and it will be changed. Someone mentioned old
> posts in response to a similar letter a while ago. I'd love to search
> for them myself, but it is not that easy.

They are searchable!

We are not using a forum because newsgroups are far more flexible. I want to
keep mails offline and be able to read them in a train.

There is a nice tutorial for those who are not familar with newsgroups yet
(see signature). And if someone doesn't like newsgroups for some reason, he
can still use the mailing lists which are 1:1 in synch with the newsgroups.

We are currently looking out for a good software to provide web based access
to these resources. It will not be a forum because a forum is flat, but it
will be web based. See typo3.teams.typo3org for more information.

Regards, michael
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