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Amir Mualem
amir219 at sbcglobal.net
Sun May 8 01:38:32 CEST 2005
Erik Svendsen wrote:
> Hello Amir,
>
> I have with interest and curiosity been reading this thread, and some of
> the other questions you have asked. And I want to give you some advices.
> I have about 25 years of experience in IT, but are really new to the
> Typo3 world. And I'm not any programmer or IT-guru. Here are my advices.
>
> 1. Don't expect to graduate from university the same day as you start in
> first class. Every complicated system (and an enterprise CMS as Typo3 is
> complicated) takes time to learn - often a lot of time, and most of that
> time is reading and trying. And as many here has pinpointed, ask your
> question when you have read and tried (at least two times). Because then
> you learn. I suppose you play strategy games. Then I wonder how many
> hours you have used to be good in those games. To master Typo3 (or any
> other advanced CMS) I suppose you have to use much of the same time -
> and maybe more.
>
> 2. If others behave rude to me - my lifelong experience tells me it's
> because I'm not polite and listen to others.
>
> 3. If people tell you it's explained in the tutorials, then it's
> explained in the tutorials. And they don't tell you because they don't
> want to answer, but because it's the best answer. On every question you
> have asked I have found the answer in different tutorials and
> documentation (or in the list, faq or google).
>
> And your questions don't make it easy to answer. Or let me say it in
> other words. On your question I can't give other answer than read the
> FTB - manual, not only read it, but do it. And then try to make a site
> with simple design, and then one with more sophisticated design. It's
> the only way to master Typo3, belive me - I have gone that way. And I
> can also tell you following, looking at your reedesign template, I know
> today how I would implement it.
>
>
> WBR,
> Erik Svendsen
> www.linnearad.no
>
>> Olivier Dobberkau wrote:
>>
>>> Amir Mualem wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now a personal attack? Thats very nice to hear there buddy. ;) Now
>>>> we are judging members here with age. I wonder how actual 14 year
>>>> olds here think about that comment. ;)
>>>>
>>> give us a break.
>>> you are right and we are all wrong.
>>> *plonk*
>>>
>> Give who a break? Why dont you and everyone else give ME a break. I
>> never asked to be critisized because of my question. Every question I
>> have asked has been met with rudeness and an attitude. And now you
>> with a personal attack along with Micheal stucki calling me
>> lazy/stupid.
>>
>> Why dont you give ME a break. ;) Or I am going to have to call this
>> trolling.
>>
>
>
>
I understand what your saying there. Yes, it takes a while to learn
strategy games. But I also understand that it will take me a while to
grasp typo3 fully.
I think its fine that people advice me to read the manual, but all I ask
is that you give me MORE direction. I have the manual open, it would do
me good if someone told me where INSIDE the 100+ page manuals the answer
might be. "RTFM" -- There are tons of typo3 manuals, each with dozens
of pages... whats the point of wasting time reading each one to find one
answer that you need right now? I dont understand.
Therefore, when I post I expect someone to help with more then just
RTFM, atleast give me a page number. Maybe some people know a good
online article they just been to recently and can refer it to me. ;)
And I did the FTB tutorial, or the first half, before FCE, with a
different custom design which was simple aswell.
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