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Amir Mualem amir219 at sbcglobal.net
Sun May 8 01:38:32 CEST 2005


Erik Svendsen wrote:
> Hello Amir,
> 
> I have with interest and curiosity been reading this thread, and some of 
> the other questions you have asked. And I want to give you some advices. 
> I have about 25 years of experience in IT, but are really new to the 
> Typo3 world. And I'm not any programmer or IT-guru. Here are my advices.
> 
> 1. Don't expect to graduate from university the same day as you start in 
> first class. Every complicated system (and an enterprise CMS as Typo3 is 
> complicated) takes time to learn - often a lot of time, and most of that 
> time is reading and trying. And as many here has pinpointed, ask your 
> question when you have read and tried (at least two times). Because then 
> you learn. I suppose you play strategy games. Then I wonder how many 
> hours you have used to be good in those games. To master Typo3 (or any 
> other advanced CMS) I suppose you have to use much of the same time - 
> and maybe more.
> 
> 2. If others behave rude to me - my lifelong experience tells me it's 
> because I'm not polite and listen to others.
> 
> 3. If people tell you it's explained in the tutorials, then it's 
> explained in the tutorials. And they don't tell you because they don't 
> want to answer, but because it's the best answer. On every question you 
> have asked I have found the answer in different tutorials and 
> documentation (or in the list, faq or google).
> 
> And your questions don't make it easy to answer. Or let me say it in 
> other words. On your question I can't give other answer than read the 
> FTB - manual, not only read it, but do it. And then try to make a site 
> with simple design, and then one with more sophisticated design. It's 
> the only way to master Typo3, belive me - I have gone that way. And I 
> can also tell you following, looking at your reedesign template, I know 
> today how I would implement it.
> 
> 
> WBR,
> Erik Svendsen
> www.linnearad.no
> 
>> Olivier Dobberkau wrote:
>>
>>> Amir Mualem wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now a personal attack?  Thats very nice to hear there buddy. ;)  Now
>>>> we are judging members here with age.  I wonder how actual 14 year
>>>> olds here think about that comment. ;)
>>>>
>>> give us a break.
>>> you are right and we are all wrong.
>>> *plonk*
>>>
>> Give who a break?  Why dont you and everyone else give ME a break.  I
>> never asked to be critisized because of my question.  Every question I
>> have asked has been met with rudeness and an attitude.  And now you
>> with a personal attack along with Micheal stucki calling me
>> lazy/stupid.
>>
>> Why dont you give ME a break. ;)  Or I am going to have to call this
>> trolling.
>>
> 
> 
> 

I understand what your saying there.  Yes, it takes a while to learn 
strategy games.  But I also understand that it will take me a while to 
grasp typo3 fully.

I think its fine that people advice me to read the manual, but all I ask 
is that you give me MORE direction.  I have the manual open, it would do 
me good if someone told me where INSIDE the 100+ page manuals the answer 
might be.  "RTFM" -- There are tons of typo3 manuals, each with dozens 
of pages... whats the point of wasting time reading each one to find one 
answer that you need right now?  I dont understand.

Therefore, when I post I expect someone to help with more then just 
RTFM, atleast give me a page number.  Maybe some people know a good 
online article they just been to recently and can refer it to me.  ;)

And I did the FTB tutorial, or the first half, before FCE, with a 
different custom design which was simple aswell.



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