[TYPO3-dev] Exceptions of LocalDriver in TYPO3 6.2.x and their consequences
Frans Saris
franssaris at gmail.com
Fri Oct 10 08:42:22 CEST 2014
Hi Frank,
we are trying to tackle these issues. In 6.2 there are already a lot of
these exceptions catched.
Last Active Contributor Meeting we also discussed this and we are trying to
tackle most/all use-cases that result in an exception.
Just preventing the exception to be thrown is IMO no option.
Could you describe the use-case you run into. How is the asset called in
the front-end?
gr. Frans
2014-10-09 17:26 GMT+02:00 Frank Gerards | FORMER03 GmbH <frank at f03.eu>:
> Hi Philipp,
> thx 4 info - i came across the Exception handling when fetching files and
> checking permissions.
> So, if there is no switch to turn off FAL completely, maybe there ist he
> will to create a fast-response-task-force
> on an upcoming TYPO3 event before christmas ?
>
> Cheers,
> Frank
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: typo3-dev-bounces at lists.typo3.org [mailto:
> typo3-dev-bounces at lists.typo3.org] Im Auftrag von Philipp Gampe
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2014 17:07
> An: typo3-dev at lists.typo3.org
> Betreff: Re: [TYPO3-dev] Exceptions of LocalDriver in TYPO3 6.2.x and
> their consequences
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Frank Gerards | FORMER03 GmbH wrote:
>
> > Is there sth like a joint effort to fix this problems and - more
> > important
> > - communicate the handling of FAL resources
>
> It is not even such simple things like a missing file that creates
> problems all over the place, but also things like offline storages, deleted
> but referenced storages, etc.
>
> The whole concept is broken here (not FAL, but the frontend using FAL).
> AFAIK there is still not concept/documentation on how the typical usage
> flow of a frontend call to render a file should look like.
> There is not documentation on who calls what at what point and how to
> react on errors, what to check before calling certain functions - Not to
> talk about localization.
> getXYZ() calls suddenly try to create folders in the middle of the call
> chain, because the try to fix things they should care about and completely
> ignore a readonly flag (processing folder creation on getRole).
>
> There is no or little documentation (some PHPdoc, but most are useless) on
> how certain functions behave (e.g. ignore permissions, delete flags, etc).
>
> There is no documentation on what functions are high level API (e.g. do
> everything for you; called porcelain commands in git) and what functions
> are the plumber commands, the kind of comments if you need to do tricky
> stuff.
> There is no (public) concept off what to call in which situations.
> There is no concept of what is a working, consistent state of a storage,
> when it is inconsistent or broken and who and what command are supposed to
> fix this and everything bring back to a consistent state. Currently it
> happens sometimes magically and something just not resulting to all sorts
> of exceptions. Partially exceptions are used as GOTO alternative, a pattern
> I come across regularly on OOP "experts" (nothing here GOTO main function
> IS the same is throwing an exception and catching it in the main function
> just to find out if a record exists or not; exceptions should be for
> exceptional conditions and not for regular program behavior and expected
> error conditions).
>
> Because of this, some people - including me - fixed a few fatal errors
> they came across, but we can do little to mitigate the conceptual problems
> outlined above.
> It is up the the main developers of FAL to provide a documentation on how
> it
> *should* behave, such that others can go ahead and fix bugs based on that.
>
> Best regards
> --
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