[TYPO3-dev] The extbase dilemma

[Mathias Schreiber [wmdb]]

Am 19.05.11 12:14, schrieb Felix Oertel:
> Hey Mathias,
>
>
> Am 19.05.11 11:29, schrieb Mathias Schreiber [wmdb]:
>> I'd LOVE to use extbase once I am *sure* I'm not sitting on a timebomb
>> and it is living up to the promisses the devs gave.
>
> So basically you wanna sit back, relax and wait for the perfect,
> performant and well documented framework to happen ... to you ... for free?

Not at all.
But you keep ignoring what I say, so I don't really see any point in 
discussing this any further.

> Propably we could achieve to offer a 12-hour-response-time
> service-level-agreement as well, so you don't have to fear bugs too
> much. Would be for free ... of course.

I can pay money for an SLA?
With all responsibilities?
You pay actual money when you break my data?
Where do I sign?

> I totally understand that. If we don't meet your expecations just keep
> on bashing, that's the totally right thing to do !

I don't know how to make this any clearer:
I did NOT set up the expectations. You did.
HUUUUGE difference :)

>> So the bashing is kinda home'made.
>
> Ah, and this gives you permission to do it? *wyrg*

There is a term "help me to help you".
I think you're no moron, so I take you're able to consider this:
There are a LOT of people taking a close look at what you do that you 
NEVER EVER have heard of.
By selling (and now we're talking marketing, not code) something as 
something it is not, you lie to people.
These people read what you advertise, check if your product lives up to 
what YOU did say (not what they think of it).
If it does not, you do irreparable damage to the TYPO3 project as a whole.
I don't think you want this, neither do I.

So I ask for:
- Keeping the noise down until there is something to brag about
- Considering enterprise applications PRIOR to driving them into the 
wall and then bashing users who relied on your statements that they are 
idiots
- not to move performance issues into the post-release phase

You're more than welcome to explain to me why these 3 things are not 
valid points to be considered or at least commented on.

Let's try it the other way round...
If I come up and say "I will recode all of TCEmain and make it faster, 
more extendable" and then deliver something that will break your stuff 
you'd bash me as well... and rightly so :)



-- 
Ernesto, Nov. 9th 2010:
"In the graphics generation routines of TYPO3 *anything* could cause a
side effect."