[TYPO3-dev] Developing Standards - CSS

[Erik Svendsen]

Jigal van Hemert skrev:
> Hi,
> 
> Georg Ringer wrote:
>> Tomas Norre Mikkelsen schrieb:
>>> When i develop / setup TYPO3 websites, 30-40% of my time is for adapt
>>> css-styling, such the plugin match the generel design template.
>> I do 80% coding new extensions because I can't use existing ones
> 
> This only means that extensions are not flexible regarding styling, etc.
> 
> If extension programmers would stick to a few basic rules:
> - use a flexible HTML template
> - do not generate HTML in the PHP code
> - use stdWrap on every data field
> - include links to CSS and JS in the HTML template (see Dmitry's book 
> for code to include those parts in the page)
> 
> then you would only need to change the template of an extension (and 
> possibly a bit TS to format the data) to display things exactly like you 
> want them displayed.
> 
> Adding the ability to create custom markers in TypoScript (quite simple 
> too) would add a bit extra flexibility.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Jigal van Hemert.

Straight to the point - agree in every part.

Personaly I more and less turn of every bit of CSS from extensions, 
change stdWrap and HTML-templates to suit the design of the site. The 
result is one CSS (maybe two) CSS-files, and they are mostly small.

And to Tomas, CSS-styling takes time in commercial CMS to, many of them 
have more CSS than a typical TYPO3 installation. Neither are the html in 
any way pretty to. I have counted up to 15 nested divs in installations 
with commercial systems and nearly 100 kB with CSS.

But of course we should try to help/force developers to make better 
html-templates, following good practice for how to code fleksible HTML. 
And some guidelines could be a helping hand. Also "sharing" better 
templates could help.

Regards

Erik Svendsen