[TYPO3-dev] FLOW3 / TYPO3 5.0

[Thomas Fritz]

2010/4/29 ben van 't ende <ben at typo3.org>

> Hey Thomas,
>
>
Hey, i think you meant me.... ;)



> Thanks a lot for your constructive contribution. We just started the first
> sprint and communicating about the sprints end especially the sprint
> reviews is
> on the top of our list. We will also do a sprint review at T3DD10.
>

YW. Great to hear that my suggestions comes to some ears! :)
Can you add the summarys of the reviews to the FLOW3 website? This would be
great to communicate the efforts to a broader Community.
Perhaps someone will then create some real world use cases or you can link
this with the documentation.


>
> gRTz
>
> ben
>


Kind regards
Thomas


>
>
>
> On 28/04/10 17:32, Thomas Fritz wrote:
> > Hello everybody!
> >
> > I have not read the whole discussion, so sorry if this is now
> inappropriate.
> >
> >
> > I understand Robert points and i think many more who have worked on a
> long
> > evolving product can understand him too. Sometimes it is better (and even
> > faster) to start from scratch than do some refactorings here and some
> > refactorings there and run into problems because you can not test the
> > product good enough because there are no UnitTests or you simply have not
> > the resources to test the whole application on every refactoring. So i
> fully
> > agree and appreciate that they started the FLOW3 project. I think the
> whole
> > TYPO3 Team does enormously much for the PHP community and inspires much
> of
> > us to become more professional.
> > So please TYPO3 Team - Keep up your good work. I think you are doing it
> > right - take your time.
> >
> > Besides that i think the step to use Scrum as Programming Paradigma for
> > FLOW3 and TYPO3 Phoenix is also a good step. Maybe the "deadline
> discussion"
> > gets obsolete, when you make the Release Planning, the Iteration Planings
> > and the Sprint Reviews, and so on more transparent to the Community. I
> also
> > recommend the Book from Roman Pichler (
> >
> http://www.amazon.de/Scrum-Agiles-Projektmanagement-erfolgreich-einsetzen/),
> > if you have not read it yet.
> >
> > The only thing i miss is more information about the progress, some more
> news
> > on the FLOW3 project site. What about posting a video after every
> Iteration
> > with the summary of the Sprint Review and some real world code examples
> how
> > to use it.
> >
> >
> > Thank you so far for inspiring people!!
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> > 2010/4/28 Olivier Dobberkau <olivier.dobberkau at dkd.de>
> >
> >> Am 28.04.10 08:44, schrieb Dmitry Dulepov:
> >>
> >>> Sure! :) I'd be happy to have beer with everybody, who cares about
> TYPO3
> >> :)
> >>
> >> now we know: TYPO3 is about Beer :-)
> >>
> >> Your Reverend Neverend.
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