[TYPO3-dev] Re: [TYPO3-english] Closedown bugs.typo3.org

[Mathias Schreiber [wmdb >]]

Staffan Ericsson schrieb:
> Hi!
> 
> I suggest that bugs.typo3.org is closed down as soon as possible. As I
> watch the summary page I notice 3648 open bugs! In the core there is
> 1971 open bugs alone and 1202 resolved but unclosed bugs.

This is because we set bugs to "resolved" first and then close them down 
lateron (which is only a usability thing).

Next up I walked through the bugtracker and would close down at least 
50% of all reported bugs with the remark "user generated error".
Guess what: They are open less than 24 hrs later :)
Reason: folks unlikely see that things are their mistake.

> As it is apparent that bugs.typo3 is not used and bugs reported thru
> that medium is not handled by the typo3 community. As bugs.typo3.org is
> a blackhole when it comes to bugs it's better to simply close it down
> that give false hope to all bug reporters.

To the outside this might be true.
It is very difficult to communicate how bugs are handled within the 
TYPO3 project.
Bugs are reported.
Bugs are then either taken up by some of the cool folks at the bug days 
(thank you guys btw.) and provided with patches or the one who found the 
bug supplies a patch.
These bugs are then transmitted to the Core Mailing List where they need 
positive reviews so we can circumvent that patch A brings up bugs B, C 
and D.
This works in 95% of all cases (which is pretty good, compared to other 
systems).

> There is an unhealthy rush in the TYPO3 development team towards new
> functionality and gold plating. The community needs to change focus
> towards usablitity and bug fixing. Stop all new development until the
> number of open bugs is below 100!

I think you might not have attended the TYPO3 Developer Days or whatched 
the videos so I won't blame you for not knowing:
The next TYPO3 releases will:
a) have a far quicker release cycle (6 months)
b) focus on 90% bugfixing and "convinience things" and 10% new features

These are of course estimates and only a future plan but all in all it 
should satisfy your demand.

If you have any ideas how to improve outside communication or make the 
current ways to handle things more transparent you can either get in 
touch with Peter Pröll (peter at typo3.org) or me (who will then forward a 
digest of your ideas to Peter).

Just a sidenote:
TYPO3 people are very much like surfers - if you rant in their place you 
might get a bloody nose, even if the rant was not your intention.

Constructive criticism is always (!) welcome.

cheers
Mathias

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