[TYPO3-dev] turkish caseshifting in core

Elmar Hinz elmar.DOT.hinz at team.MINUS.red.DOT.net
Sat Mar 25 19:24:40 CET 2006


Hello typoniks,

dotted and undotted Is in turkisch.

I don't know if I can help to fix this problem, but I tried to
approach this interesting problem by studying

/usr/share/i18n/locales/tr_TR

on my machine. Because probably few people will do this, I report a
summery of my results.

To say it short:  turkish has the disadvantage to be very sytematical
with Is.

There are 4 Is: dotted and undotted both in higher and lower case.

International languages only know 2 of them and switch between

dotted-lower <=> undotted-upper

turkisch knows all and switches consequently:

dotted-lower <=> dotted-upper
undotted-lower <=> undotted-upper


Gür reports that only lower-dotted i works for <link>.

Undotted upper does't work. It will by lowercased to the
lower-undotted wich isn't used in <link>.

Taking it logically the dotted-upper should be converted to
dottet-lower in turkish. Please Gür test to write <LINK> with
dotted-upper I.


Martin Kutscher has proposed two solution to switch between POSIX for
evalution of tags and locale for evaluation of content bewteen tags.

PROBLEM: case conversion and Turkish


A quickhack would be a regular expression during parsing the code to
make links from <link>.  something similar to '/l.nk/'.

Regards

Elmar





Gür Yildirim schrieb:
> Hi Core-Developers,
> 
> I guess a serious Gremlin will make its way straight to T3_4.0
> Let me try to scratch what happend:
> 
> 22.07.05
> Metin Yilmaz reported at http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=1303 (ID 1303) a bug about troubles with config.locale_all=tr_TR and broken links.
> I was new to typo3 and didn't ever read the mailing lists.
> 
> July/August of 2005
> I advised our editors not to use RTE but to write links by entering <link ...>...</link>, Which I found out to make links work. UPPERCASE-notation fails (forget about ts_ref-notation)
> 
> 08.12.05
> I reported my own experiences (anger) as a Note at http://bugs.typo3.org/view.php?id=1303. Several people since then asked me by direct mail if there was any development according to this case, but I was sorry to decline.
> 
> 09.12.05
> Martin Kutschker, whom I am very thankful for, posted his thoughts about the origin of the problems, which now seem to be obvious to me ;) to typo3-dev (Subject: "PROBLEM: case conversion and Turkish"). A list I wasn't reading those days so I missed to answer or comment just in time. Nevertheless I wondered why there was no changes to the bug-status (no new notes, monitors, etc.)
> 
> 25.03.06
> Wanting to meet trouble halfway to t3_4.0-release-day I checked 4.0rc1 and ... here we go again ... :'(
> 
> Can anyone help me out by saying everything's gonna be alright?
> 
> Gür "Cenk" Yildirim




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