[Neos] Edit & Preview in 1.0 (LONG)

[Renzo Bauen]

Dear Rasmus

it makes sens for People outside the core team.
As a swiss resident i am dealing all the time with translations and
different languages. Could it be an idea to use the Previews also to
show/edit different languages?
And the mobile preview, could it show the content like firebug does it
while hitting Ctrl-Shift-M? This Preview has a drop down with de
different screen resolutions.

Best Regards and thanks to the core team for your work!
Its exiting!

Renzo
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Am Donnerstag, den 05.12.2013, 00:56 +0100 schrieb Rasmus Skjoldan:

> Hi,
> 
> Aske and I have been working a lot on the Edit & Preview menu tonight. There are many things we would like to provide asap but that are not yet thought through enough to implement – and also the time to implement features is obviously extremely limited.
> 
> But at the same time, the Edit & Preview concept needs to make sense from the start.
> 
> First of all, a label change. Editing Experience will be renamed (once again) to Editing Modes. I've been debating the labeling of editing/authoring with Jeff Eaton, the UX'er from Magnolia CMS and Rick Yagodich on http://rasmusskjoldan.com/post/68771788707/world-wide-labeling-decision-editor-experience-or and elsewhere – and it's small minefield to step into. Editing Modes is a bit safer choice for now and should be okay for us. The important bit is to make people understand that the same content can be edited in multiple ways. 
> 
> In terms of what modes will be in in Editing Modes, that will be fixed for 1.0: In-Place and Raw Content (formerly known as Wireframe). We're thinking that Structured Content (in fields with validation, restrictions and help texts) will be the major third way of editing in Neos – but that one will come later after some more research and testing.
> 
> The pain point today really has been what modes to put into Preview Central for 1.0. 
> 
> Right now, we have Desktop that's similar to In-Place but with all editing disabled. To make integrators and users get the concept of a Central of multiple previews of the same content – or views drawing on metadata related to the chosen content in the Navigate tree – we needed to either provide more than one fixed preview mode – or make it customizable from the start. 
> 
> Our LEGO principles actually came in handy here – it's almost always better in Neos to provide a UI framework instead of very specific UI's. We'll therefore spend time on getting the Preview modes to be customizable for integrators from the start.
> 
> Each mode can have its own template (if I understood Aske correctly :-). This will make it possible for integrators to do a Google search preview, a fixed mobile template, an accessibility preview mode etc. etc. But we won't provide any kind of responsive/device previews in 1.0 – other than the desktop itself. I think this is the wiser choice – instead of spending time on mobile/tablet previews and so on.
> 
> Also from a marketing and communication stand point, it's going to be better this way. There will be a more natural progression in the first versions – and we don't have to maintain very specific preview modes in the core (if Google changes stuff for search previews etc.). 
> 
> In addition, we're practising what we preach this way: Preview is not just about devices and widths but is something that needs to be tailored on project basis to really help editors and content managers. 
> 
> With 1.0, you will be able to build projects that only have Raw Content as the editing mode and then 3 different previews. That way, you can ask your editors to only input in this super simple way – and preview the 3 most important templates/channels/device widths before publishing.
> 
> Hope it makes sense to people outside the team, too.
> 
> Best. Rasmus
> 
> Rasmus Skjoldan
> Neos UX lead / TYPO3 brand manager
> rasmus at typo3.org
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