[Typo3-windows] [Typo3-install] [Typo3-dev] Introduction of an automated, self extracting installer for typo3.org

[@4u]

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I'm doing this because I was recommended to do so by "Michael Stucki"
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Me:

Hello,

I'm currently trying to find user support for a program I created for
developers in PHP. Its an self extracting installer for PHP programs meaning
not to replace existing installers, but allowing users to upload two single
(compressed) files for installing an application like typo3.org - you can
think of this like the InstallShield Wizard for Windows XP.

I know, and I'm sure many PHP developers do know, that this tool will NOT
run on most SAFE_MODE-enabled areas. But for the rest and installs on
tripod.de (ok, who want to do this?) where SAFE_MODE is enabled and it still
works - it really helps because you only have to upload two single files
(typo3.org compressed package "dummy" have a size of about 9 MB; like the
original Zip-package; but hey - instead of uploading 36 MB ... :)) and it
automatically sets CHMODs.

Most developers - at least for my former projects - had many support
requests about CHMODing and so on.

Please have a look at:
http://www.direct-netware.de/redirect.php?web;en;projects;ipk;ni (int)
http://www.direct-netware.de/redirect.php?web;de;projects;ipk;ni (de)
and judge yourself.

My question: Are anybody here interested in this "technology" - released
under GNU GPL and GNU LGPL (the core iPK-class).

Thanks for supporting and answering,
@4u

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Stucki" <mundaun at gmx.ch>
Newsgroups: typo3.dev
To: <typo3-dev at lists.netfielders.de>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Typo3-dev] Introduction of an automated, self extracting
installer for typo3.org

> > I know, and I'm sure many PHP developers do know, that this tool will
NOT
> > run on most SAFE_MODE-enabled areas. But for the rest and installs on
> > tripod.de (ok, who want to do this?) where SAFE_MODE is enabled and it
> > still works - it really helps because you only have to upload two single
> > files (typo3.org compressed package "dummy" have a size of about 2.8 MB)
> > and it automatically sets CHMODs.
>
> This thing really looks interesting! :-)
>
> I see one small downside: If the files are unpacked by the server, he will
> be the owner of these files. In most cases, the webserver is running as a
> different user than the real client is working as.

The automated chmodding uses 0766 for all files and 0777 for directories,
this is the standard chmodding - custom CHMOD setting for single files may
differ.

> This results in missing permissions for doing changes through FTP, right?!
> (The only way to solve this seems to be to chmod the files with a+rw.)

See above - this is the only problem with PHP - again this is the reason why
SAFE_MODE-enabled webservers are mostly not able to use the NetInstaller.

> So the question is: Does your package include a 'filemanager' where things
> can be maintained just like through an FTP client? Thus it would still be
> working with the privileges of the webserver...

This is "just" an self-extracting installer, not an file manager suite (at
the moment)

> > My question: Are anybody here interested in this "technology" - released
> > under GNU GPL and GNU LGPL (the core iPK-class).
>
> Yes! So I can simply download it and use the stuff?! :-)
>
> Hmmm, maybe repost this message on the Typo3 Linux Install list
> (news://news.netfielders.de/typo3.install.linux/)