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    Lieber Herr Förster,<br>
    liebe Liste,<br>
    <br>
    Sie haben in Ihrer Mail um 10:00 Uhr den Firmennamen sehr wohl
    genannt.<br>
    <br>
    Insgesamt finde ich das sehr anstregend und für die Liste nicht
    förderlich, ehrlich gesagt interessiert mich der Kleinkrieg
    überhaupt nicht. Ich bitte darum entweder auf einer sachlichen Ebene
    zu Neos zu diskutieren, d.h. die Frage ob und wie das System mit
    einer großen Zahl an Redakteur*innen und Microsites umgeht, und den
    Rest privat zu klären.<br>
    <br>
    Danke<br>
    Matthias Landwehr<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 17.11.2020 um 10:47 schrieb Förster,
      Jochen:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Ich
            habe den Firmennamen nicht genannt und sage dazu aus Gründen
            auch nichts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            habe hier lediglich in die Runde gefragt, wer mit Neos im
            Hochschulumfeld gute Erfahrungen sammeln konnte, oder eben
            schlechte, wenns denn so wäre.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Dipl.-Ing.(FH)
                Jochen Förster</span></b><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Webadministration/Typo3<br>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org">typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org</a>
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                <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Peter Pröll<br>
                <b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 17. November 2020 10:39<br>
                <b>An:</b> TYPO3 Usergroup German Universities<br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [TYPO3-UG Universities DE]
                Alternativen zu Typo3? Neos?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Liebe alle,<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">ich finde es beachtlich, was hier
              gerade passiert. <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">- Aufgrund miserabler Projektführung,
              deren Ursachen immer bei den beiden Parteien liegen
              (Auftraggeber &amp; Auftragnehmer), ist etwas schief
              gelaufen. Meine Analyse des speziellen Falls Förster ./.
              DMK ist ja schon bekannt. Man könnte jetzt daraus lernen.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">- Statt sich das genau anzuschauen und
              verantwortlich und erwachsen aus größtenteils eigenen
              Fehlern zu lernen, werden aber konstant und nur im Außen
              die Schuldigen gesucht. Nicht nur, dass dieses
              unglaubliche und unerhörte Bashing einer einzelnen Agentur
              nach Monaten immer noch - man kann schon fast sagen:
              systematisch - (gerechtfertigt oder nicht) betrieben wird,
              jetzt muß also TYPO3 selbst herhalten?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">TYPO3 und NEOS sind hochwertigste
              Systeme. Die angebrachte Kritik und die
              „Horror“-Bezeichnung sind nicht angemessen. Ihre Probleme
              hängen nicht am System und den Systemwechsel jetzt zu
              betreiben, um zukünftig keine Probleme mehr zu haben, wird
              Ihnen die gleichen Probleme mit dem neuen System auch
              bringen. Sowohl TYPO3 und auch NEOS werden Sie so nicht
              gerecht, wenn auf einer solchen Ebene diskutiert wird.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Ich fände es sehr erfrischend, wenn auf
              sachlich begründeter Ebene verglichen wird, nicht in Form
              von Agenturbashing und Horrorzuschreibungen. Das führt
              nämlich zu nichts. Können wir also das Eine vom Anderen
              getrennt betrachten? Das Versagen in der Zusammenarbeit
              von Agentur und Auftraggeber im Falle Förster hat nichts
              zu tun mit den beiden Produkten.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Herzlichst <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Peter Pröll<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  Consulting - Peter Pröll</span><span
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Dienstag, Nov. 17, 2020 at 10:01
                AM, Förster Jochen &lt;<a
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                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    Eric,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">prinzipiell
                    mag ich Typo3, aber die Aussage da ist ja offen,
                    dass Methoden nur min 2 Zyklen fest vereinbart sind
                    und sich dann durchaus ändern können. Das ist an
                    sich Horror! Und anscheinend hat DMK mit Methoden
                    der Version 6x die 7x gefüttert, obwohl vereinbart
                    war, dass das Ganze 8.x-fest sein muss. Leider ist
                    keine einzige Erweiterung und nicht mal die
                    Grundlagen des Systems (Template) für 8.x tauglich
                    gewesen. Es ist sage und schreibe Alles gegen die
                    Wand gedonnert.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Daher
                    mein Frust, auch gegen Typo3 selbst…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Dank
                    dir für den Link und ja, da ist auch einiges los auf
                    der Seite, wie es aussieht.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Mich
                    würde vor allem das Handling vieler Microsites und
                    hunderter Redakteure interessieren… ob es das
                    schaffen würde?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Viele
                    Grüße</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jochen
                  </span><span
                    style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Dipl.-Ing.(FH)
                        Jochen Förster</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><br>
                    </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Webadministration/Typo3<br>
                      <br>
                      Hochschule für Technik, Wirtschaft und Kultur
                      Leipzig<br>
                      IT-Servicezentrum<br>
                      Eichendorffstraße 2 | 04277 Leipzig | <a
href="https://www.htwk-leipzig.de/hochschule/standorte-lageplan/ueber-unsere-gebaeude/eichendorffstrasse/"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                        Raum E 211</a><br>
                      Postanschrift: Postfach 30 11 66 | 04251 Leipzig<br>
                      Tel.: +49 341 3076 - 6292<br>
                      <a href="mailto:jochen.foerster@htwk-leipzig.de"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">jochen.foerster@htwk-leipzig.de</a>|
                      <a href="www.htwk-leipzig.de"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="color:#666666">www.htwk-leipzig.de</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
                    1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org">typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org">mailto:typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org</a>] <b>Im Auftrag
                          von </b>
                        Eric Schümann<br>
                        <b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 17. November 2020
                        09:50<br>
                        <b>An:</b> 'TYPO3 Usergroup German Universities'<br>
                        <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [TYPO3-UG Universities DE]
                        Alternativen zu Typo3? Neos?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hallo
                    Jochen,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">auch
                    wenn ich dir bezüglich der Kritik an TYPO3
                    widersprechen muss, es ist sehr wohl ein System
                    welches updatebar bleibt, wenn man sich an gewisse
                    Grundlagen hält. Dies Grundlagen gelten auch für
                    jedes andere System, auch NEOS.
                  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Bei
                    meinem alten Arbeitgeber habe ich NEOS mit
                    eingeführt und bin mit dem Ergebnis sehr zufrieden.
                    Auch wenn es ein Biotechnologie Unternehmen ist,
                    sehe ich doch gewisse Parallelen zu komplexen
                    Uni-Webseiten:
                    <a href="https://www.miltenyibiotec.com/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.miltenyibiotec.com/</a>
                  </span>
                  <o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Viele
                    Grüße<br>
                    Eric</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span
                    style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#222222">---</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span
                    style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#222222">Eric Schümann<br>
                    Systembetreuer Webauftritt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:15.0pt;background:white;vertical-align:baseline"><span
                    style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#222222">Universität
                    Erfurt<br>
                    Nordhäuser Straße 63<br>
                    D - 99089 Erfurt<br>
                    Tel.: +49 361.737 - 5476 (weiterhin erreichbar)<br>
                    <a href="http://www.uni-erfurt.de/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#0563C1">www.uni-erfurt.de</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
                    1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm">
                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
                        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org">typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org">&lt;typo3-ug-universities-de-bounces@lists.typo3.org&gt;</a> <b>Im Auftrag
                          von </b>Förster, Jochen<br>
                        <b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 17. November 2020
                        09:34<br>
                        <b>An:</b> 'TYPO3 Usergroup German Universities'
                        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:typo3-ug-universities-de@lists.typo3.org">&lt;typo3-ug-universities-de@lists.typo3.org&gt;</a><br>
                        <b>Betreff:</b> [TYPO3-UG Universities DE]
                        Alternativen zu Typo3? Neos?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hallo
                    liebe Mitstreiter,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">da
                    unser Topy3-Relaunch technisch, auf Grund 100%
                    Versagens der Programmierer + Typo3 hausgemachter
                    Probleme, richtig gegen die Wand ging, suche ich
                    derzeit einen Weg aus der Misere.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hat
                    von euch zufälligerweise Erfahrungen mit Neos im
                    Hochschulumfeld machen können?<br>
                    Ich sehe als Beispiel immer nur kleinere Seiten,
                    aber wie sich das System mit den dicken
                    Hochschulseiten machen würde, muss ich erst
                    ergründen.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Vorteilhaft
                    sehe ich hier, dass die Entwickler explizit darauf
                    achten, dass Upgrades absolut easy verlaufen sollen
                    und Schnittstellen nebst Code sauber und stetig
                    fortgeführt werden. Das fehlt mir bei Typo3 komplett
                    und mittlerweile würde ich es niemandem mehr guten
                    Gewissens empfehlen, außer, man hat eine 100%
                    zuverlässige Agentur an seiner Seite, die auch die
                    Pflege meistert, aber das scheint eine echte Rarität
                    zu sein.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Wäre
                    spannend, von euch zu lesen!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Viele
                    Grüße in die Runde</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Jochen</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-autospace:none"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Dipl.-Ing.(FH)
                        Jochen Förster</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><br>
                    </span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#666666">Webadministration/Typo3<br>
                      <br>
                      Hochschule für Technik, Wirtschaft und Kultur
                      Leipzig<br>
                      IT-Servicezentrum<br>
                      Eichendorffstraße 2 | 04277 Leipzig | <a
href="https://www.htwk-leipzig.de/hochschule/standorte-lageplan/ueber-unsere-gebaeude/eichendorffstrasse/"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                        Raum E 211</a><br>
                      Postanschrift: Postfach 30 11 66 | 04251 Leipzig<br>
                      Tel.: +49 341 3076 - 6292<br>
                      <a href="mailto:jochen.foerster@htwk-leipzig.de"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">jochen.foerster@htwk-leipzig.de</a>|
                      <a href="www.htwk-leipzig.de"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                          style="color:#666666">www.htwk-leipzig.de</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"
                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
              </div>
              <p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________
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Matthias Landwehr M.Sc.
Referent für Forschungsdatenmanagement

Universität Konstanz
Kommunikations-, Informations-, Medienzentrum (KIM)

78457 Konstanz
+49 7531 88 2551

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