[TYPO3-hci] Visual feedback on clicks

Steffen Kamper steffen at sk-typo3.de
Fri Jun 13 09:42:25 CEST 2008


"Ernesto Baschny [cron IT]" <ernst at cron-it.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:mailman.1.1213342307.30281.typo3-team-hci at lists.netfielders.de...
> Steffen Kamper wrote: on 12.06.2008 17:42:
>> Hi Ernesto,
>>
>> "Ernesto Baschny [cron IT]" <ernst at cron-it.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
>> news:mailman.1.1213277546.26984.typo3-team-hci at lists.netfielders.de...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> since 4.2 the BE is way much slower in client side, because of the heavy 
>>> use of JavaScript (I suppose). Clicking in Web>Page used to be almost 
>>> "instant" in 3.8, whereas on the same machine and same client the same 
>>> procedure now takes "seconds" to load all relevant frames, depending on 
>>> the amount of pages on the tree (maybe this can be improved?).
>>>
>>> While I understand that we need to go on improving the usability and 
>>> such "gimnicks" are part of the process, I would like to see more visual 
>>> feedback on clicks I do in the backend. At least a different 
>>> mouse-pointer (hourglass) while stuff is being processed.
>>>
>>> Currently I have to keep an eye on the browsers "waving flag" to see if 
>>> I clicked and it is still doing something or if I just missed to click 
>>> and it is doing nothing.
>>>
>>> There must be some kind of generic way of doing such mouse-pointer 
>>> actions in the BE. And that generic framework should even allow the 
>>> developer to simply add a progress bar somewhere (e.g. when I click on 
>>> Update-Extensions in the Install-Tool it takes ages and I have no clue 
>>> what is happening).
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>
>> well, we still work on this. Benni initiated a message-system driven by 
>> JS, you may know it by extJS.
>> eg you click on "empty cache" and when it's done a Messagebox appears 
>> saying "Cache was cleared" and disappears after some seconds.
>>
>> Hold on, you will find a patch for that in next time ;-)
>
> Yes, this sounds great! So I will look forward to see it in action. :) 
> Where will this message appear? And can I continue working while it is 
> "processing" (e.g. emptying the cache)?
>

we have to check for the right position, i think bottom is a good place - it 
should not cumber, and of coarse you can continue while message is shown.
There will be different kinds for this message system:
* messages (appear and disappear)
* dialog (wait for useraction)

may be dialog could also be modal (like lightbox) and could replace some 
popups, like the login-popup after timeout.

vg Steffen




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