[TYPO3-project-formidable] Bug with Listbox in edition
Luc Muller
l.mul-nospam-ler at ameos.com
Wed Jul 23 15:25:37 CEST 2008
To illustrate with an example, we can imagine that :
we have a list box with color's eyes of the user, a listbox with his favorite sport's, a listbox with his favorite food...
If I show the edition form with blank item, the user who is editing the record don't know what are the good value in db.
>>> IF the value is not set in the DB then the blank one will be shown
If he just want to change the favorite sport's, he must select also the food but he don't know what it is because this is stored in db and don't show in the listbox with no selected item.
>>> not at all.
if values are already set in the db, then the db values will be selected.
If the values are empty in the db, then the first blank item will be shown.
By the way, if you do not want to have a "blank" item at the top you can specify it's caption to "choose *field*" and leave its value empty.
Is this ok, or are we still missing something. this seems very strange to me, I havn't already met any problems with the listbox in two years of use...
Luc =:0)
Sanosuke303 a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I take this example to explain the problem in edition, but the problem is more biggest than select the title (theire are a lot of listbox).
>
> I can don't use default value in normal mode, and leave a blank on the top.
>
> But when I use a form in edition, I must select the right item. So if I leave a blank, all of my listboxS are blank and when the user is modifing an record, he don't know what he must select to don't change the value in the db.
>
> So, this solution just force the user to select an item of the list, but it don't solve the problem that he can't know what is the current value of this record.
>
> To illustrate with an example, we can imagine that :
> we have a list box with color's eyes of the user, a listbox with his favorite sport's, a listbox with his favorite food...
>
> If I show the edition form with blank item, the user who is editing the record don't know what are the good value in db. If he just want to change the favorite sport's, he must select also the food but he don't know what it is because this is stored in db and don't show in the listbox with no selected item.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> --- En date de : Mer 23.7.08, Luc Muller <l.mul-nospam-ler at ameos.com> a écrit :
>
>
>> De: Luc Muller <l.mul-nospam-ler at ameos.com>
>> Objet: Re: [TYPO3-project-formidable] Bug with Listbox in edition
>> À: typo3-project-formidable at lists.netfielders.de
>> Date: Mercredi 23 Juillet 2008, 13h51
>> Well, basically, in this state of art,
>>
>> there's a simple point to solve completely your problem
>> : dont have a
>> default value...
>>
>> If you have an "add new user" form, you can want
>> that the title "Mr" is selected, because in your
>> case, theire are more Mr than Miss in your company.
>>
>> I think it's just a cosmetic feature to avoid one clic
>> to the male
>> users (and a little discrimination ***joking***).
>>
>> in the case you don't have a default value, if the
>> value is empty, the
>> first one will be shown :"MR or blank" depending
>> if you got a blank item
>> or not.
>>
>> if the value is set, then the correct value will be
>> selected
>>
>> for now, by our side, the only point is that we can't
>> change the way it
>> works, because of retrocompatibility, and implement
>> something like that
>> I have previously told.
>>
>> but, in your case, and for the moment, I suggest you not to
>> use default
>> value, and leave a blank item at the top of the listbox...
>>
>> If possible.
>>
>> Luc Muller =:0)
>>
>> Sanosuke303 a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi and thank you for your help :)
>>>
>>> In fact, I think default value is different in normal
>>>
>> mode and in edition mode.
>>
>>> If you have an "add new user" form, you can
>>>
>> want that the title "Mr" is selected, because in
>> your case, theire are more Mr than Miss in your company.
>>
>>> But if you edit an user, you don't want that
>>>
>> "Mr" is selected. You want that the selected item
>> is that is in the table of the current user you are editing.
>>
>>> For the Title example, it's not a problem if
>>>
>> isn't select, because we know that if this user is a Mr
>> or a Miss.
>>
>>> But I have table with 5 listbox or more and if the
>>>
>> user don't remember the value of the 5 listbox, he
>> could modity listbox even if in fact he don't want.
>>
>>> So I don't know how show a form without this
>>>
>> problem.
>>
>>> If I understood, your solution is to make an edit form
>>>
>> with simple value (textbox, date...) and an other form for
>> listbox?
>>
>>> In my case, I should create a form by listbox to be
>>>
>> sure that the user edit the right data... But it's a
>> bit complicated.
>>
>>> this should be perfect :) :
>>>
>>>
>>>> <renderlet:LISTBOX>
>>>> <allowdefaultvalueinedition />
>>>> </renderlet:LISTBOX>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> In fact, initialy, why do you haven't allowed
>>>
>> defaultvalue in edition? It's a choice or a technical
>> problem?
>>
>>> Thank you for your help! ;)
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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