[TYPO3-project-formidable] FORMidable without javascritp

[Manuel Rego Casasnovas]

Hello.

I've resolved the problems with the checksingle and the pager, and now
my forms work without FORMidable.
I've developed a custom extension that extends classes from FORMidable
and do some changes.

I think that use javascript for things like submit a form it isn't a
good idea, I think that this is a past error.
In the first development steps maybe you couldn't have used javascript.
I understand that now is very very very late to change the FORMidable
development and do without javascript.
All the things that javascript doesn't contribute any news, I'll do it
without javascript.

For me javascript is very good and it allows to make very interesting
things, however if your web page require accessibility you must do that
it works with and without javascript and this is a problem. If you want
to use javascript you have to do some work two times (one with
javascript and another without javascript).

In my team we'll continue using FORMidable although we can't to update
to the new version 0.8, because we haven't been able to make it work
without javascript.

I think that FORMidable is a very good tool and very useful for Typo3
developers.

Finally congratulations to all FORMidable development team, now that I
know more how to work FORMidable I think that it's a great job.

Bye,
   Rego

PS: I hope that my comment doesn't offend anybody, if so it was never my
intention.

--
http://www.igalia.com


Jerome Schneider escribió:
> Hello Manuel,
>
> Yep, this question is a big one
>
> Honestly I don't see any way to make formidable framework work with 
> unobtrusive javascript.
>
> Perhaps with some efforts could we handle to make submission possible 
> with javascript disabled, but then all the rich features that javascript 
> makes possible should be not used during development ( and so for the 
> javascript-enabled interface also )
>
>
> This is an open topic, then.
>
> Regards,
> Jerome JS Schneider ;)
>
> Manuel Rego Casasnovas a écrit :
>   
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> In my group we need that FORMidable works without javascript. For
>> accessibility reasons we need that the web pages work with and without
>> javascript.
>>
>> I don't know if there is some way to execute FORMidable without
>> javascript but I think that don't exit this posibility.
>>
>> For the FORMidable version 0.7 we have had some problems without javascript:
>> 1. The submit button doesn't work.
>> 2. The checksingle doesn't work.
>> 3. The pager links doesn't work.
>>
>> We have sorted out the first problem. We have created a new renderlet
>> SUBMITNOSCRIPT and we have redefined the function _reder in the class
>> tx_ameosformidable. In this function we put the value
>> AMEOSFORMIDABLE_SUBMITTED to 1 when is a SUBMITNOSCRIPT button, before
>> to call the parent function. For the time being this solve the problem.
>> We still haven't looked for the solution for the rest of problems.
>>
>> Somebody has had problems trying to not use javascript?
>> What do you think about the FORMidable accessibility problems?
>>
>>
>> On the other hand in the last SVN version we have new problems with the
>> SUBMIT button, our SUBMITNOSCRIPT button works well to create records,
>> but it doesn't work to edit records. We have saw some new variables
>> AMEOSFORMIDABLE_REQUESTEDIT and AMEOSFORMIDABLE_REQUESTEDIT_HASH, but we
>> don't solve the problem.
>> As it is needed that our web application works without FORMidable at the
>> moment we are going to use the version 0.7.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>    Rego
>>
>> --
>> http://www.igalia.com
>>     
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