[TYPO3-community] Community Plugin - Current State

Alexander Heim aheim at gkl.de
Thu Nov 15 14:14:05 CET 2007


Hi Mimi,

:-) hope you both are still working on your plugin. Anything new? How is the state?

Damn that currently I'm so full packed with other projects, that after 60 hours
a week i have no space in my brain anymore :-(.

Greetz from Berlin and a lot of energy and nice ideas :-)
Alex



Michael Knoll schrieb:
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> let me give you some answers to the questions and "buts" in your mail. A
> friend and me wanted or want to build a community (as many people want
> to do these days I suppose) and as I did some pages with typo3 and
> started to write my own extensions recently, we had the plan to do this
> with Typo3.
> 
> After evaluating the extension currently available, we missed a lot of
> features and after taking a closer look on the code we came to the
> conclusion that they are not really useful for our purposes. After
> deciding to build our own extension, I found this mail-listing and
> posted some of our ideas and wanted to collect some more ideas. We put
> up a wiki page on which we tried to collect wish-lists and set up a
> roadmap.
> 
> One goal - which was not only our's but a common wish - was to use
> lib/div as a basis and no longer to use pi_base.
> 
> After some weeks of planning and talking about the whole thing, I wanted
> to start, as we would like to start our website about February next
> year. So the "many people work together" approach was - let's say
> corrupted by me simply starting to put up some of the functionality that
> was on everybody's wishlist.
> 
> The biggest problem at the moment seems to be the quick changes in
> lib/div, as it is still alpha and you can't be sure that the
> functionality you use at the moment is still available with the same
> interfaces some weeks later.
> 
> As soon as a little core of what we want to create is running, I will
> publicate it on TER or t3xdev so that everybody can help making a good
> piece of code out of it. At the moment I see no chance to coordinate
> more than the two of us (Lars and me) to do the programming stuff. If
> you have a better idea or can tell me how to coordinate a team managing
> the task, I'd be very thankful if you let me know how to do that.
> 
> The plugins we write at the moment are very small and quite
> community-low-level, so that I think we can reuse them, no matter how
> the whole-big-thing will look like one day.
> 
> Hope this explains a little of my problems and my thoughts.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mimi
> 
> 
> 
> Alexander Heim wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> great to see, that there is a development in this process. Sadly i have
>> had to muich work the last weeks to do something more and to think about
>> it.
>>
>> Now i have a big "but"! The idea of this Community-Community ;-) was or
>> is in my eyes, to work togehter with a lot of people to get the best out
>> of typo3 for developing community-websites. So I'm wondering, if i miss
>> some discussions about the plan, how the stuff will be developed. Is
>> there already a roadmap? Who is doing what? How is the guideline for
>> developing? I understand, that just starting and writing code is more
>> fun in the beginning, but without a clear concept, which is published,
>> the complete idea of an open set of many small community extensions, who
>> work easily and perfect together will die.
>>
>> Maybe i missed some discussions somewhere. I thought, that we wanted to
>> meet. But strange, this thread died. So whats up? Where? When?
>>
>> I do not want to be negative, but i leaded and developed some big
>> software projects and i just know all the problems which will come, if
>> there is no clear concept before.
>>
>>
>> But maybe someone can send me a document with the concept and i read it
>> and say: perfect! everything is thoughtful and i'm happy :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetz
>> Alex
>>
>>
>> Michael Knoll schrieb:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> after I wrote my last test for this holidays last friday, Lars and I
>>> started to write the first lines of code for the community extension. We
>>> decided to use lib/div although it's really a hard piece of work to get
>>> through the code and to find out how everything works. As Elmar
>>> explained to me, it's still alpha.
>>>
>>> We try to set up a basic extension with most of the wishes you posted on
>>>  the wiki.
>>>
>>> At the moment we are concentrating on the following functionality:
>>>
>>> - User registration (first step is done via fe_user_registration)
>>> - User settings and privacy settings (extending fe_users and creating a
>>> own table for complex privacy settings)
>>> - User search
>>> - Add/Remove Buddies
>>> - Show relations between buddies
>>> - A configurable user list to cope with any kind of user listing
>>> (search-list, buddy-list, group-members-list, ...)
>>>
>>> The next step will be to put up groups. We decided to extend
>>> fe_user_groups for that purpose and will put up some functionality that
>>> enables users to join groups or to invite other users into groups etc.
>>>
>>> After that, we will put up a messaging system, that enables users to
>>> send messages on public boards as well as on private messaging.
>>>
>>> That will be the core of the extension. We are thinking about a kind of
>>> a plugin concept to make the extension work with community-extensions to
>>> get a modular concept, but that will be one of the later points.
>>>
>>> We also decided to put up the basic functionality with new extensions
>>> based on lib/div as most of the old extensions are based on pibase. As
>>> soon as there is a example-installation of it, we will send a link to
>>> the list.
>>>
>>> So far - regards
>>>
>>> Mimi


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