[TYPO3-project-4-3] New Backend?

Dan Osipov dosipov at phillyburbs.com
Mon Jun 8 19:03:27 CEST 2009


I think Sebastian was referring to the frames in BE - the three columns 
being modules list on the left, page tree in the middle, and module 
content on the right. Having the page tree in the middle sometimes 
confuses editors...

Dan Osipov
Calkins Media
http://danosipov.com/blog/

JoH asenau wrote:
>> I think we should completely rethink the backend design and eventually
>> also get rid of the 3cols approach - that's why I think just a widget
>> based module as start module is not the ultimate solution.
> 
> Well - actually it's a 4 col approach - and in fact it's a "how many cols do
> you want" approach.
> IMHO there are two basic concepts of the current TYPO3 backend that already
> make it superior to many other CMS:
> 1.) page tree
> 2.) content columns - or better "content areas"
> 
> How many websites do you know that are not using a tree like structure for
> navigation and more or less strictly defined areas to put content in?
> Even if you want to use TYPO3 to create web based applications, these 2
> concepts will apply to a very high percentage of them.
> 
> The more templating, widgets and other fancy stuff you will introduce to a
> backend, the less consistent it will be. But consistency will be a major
> requirement to any kind of backend (not just for TYPO3) since we are not
> talking about an individual solution for one client but about a tool that is
> going to become a standard in the open source CMS market. It will be
> impossible to explain this backend to any of your clients if it's not
> consistent, because you will never know which templates, widgets and other
> cool stuff they have activated or not.
> 
> Currently people are complaining about the fact that there are too many ways
> to do the same stuff in the TYPO3 backend.
> Can you imagine how many complaints you will get in addition if you
> introduce even more possibilities to change the look, feel and behaviour of
> it?
> 
> Once I heard a rumour that "form follows function" and another one that
> everything should be "kept simple and stupid". IMHO this is true for a TYPO3
> backend as well, but I don't think you will satisfy these needs with too
> many fancy design features.
> 
> IMHO we need a consistent look and feel and a consistent set of features
> without too many possibilities to change it to get a TYPO3 backend that can
> be handled easily by most of it's users.
> 
> Just another 2 cents
> 
> Joey
> 


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