[TYPO3-english] Templavoila

Thu Sep 19 07:47:19 CEST 2013

Hi!

I know it has been a long time, but I heard about this issue only recently.

And I've to correct you: This is far off a "simple thing". Although this patch now looks rather simple, it is by far not simple what is behind the whole process.
If it were that simple, someone of those 40 people would have provided a patch already 8 month ago.
Even the multishop author himself, who posted the bug, could not provide a patch, although I'm pretty sure he know TYPO3 CMS quite well too.

Kind regards
Markus

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Markus Klein
TYPO3 CMS Active Contributors Team Member

> -----Original Message-----
> From: typo3-english-bounces at lists.typo3.org [mailto:typo3-english-
> bounces at lists.typo3.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Becker
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:31 AM
> To: TYPO3 English
> Subject: Re: [TYPO3-english] Templavoila
> 
> Another add-on as I just had a look to Forge:
> 
> Pagerenderer / page.headerData + USER_INT is not working
> 
> Added by Bas van Beek <http://forge.typo3.org/users/3008> 8
> months<http://forge.typo3.org/projects/typo3v4-core/activity?from=2013-
> 01-26>
> ago.
> Updated 1 day<http://forge.typo3.org/projects/typo3v4-
> core/activity?from=2013-09-17>
>  ago.
> 
> 8 ( E I G H T ) months ????? This can't be true - or
> 
> It took eight months to get this simple thing fixed?
> 
> How many core releases did we had since in TYPO3 6 ??? and never one of
> the core considered to work or integrate this patch ???
> 
> ---
> 
> Hi Markus - I am not sure who is waiting 8 months like us and still with
> TYPO3 but if one of those 40 depends on this patch to continue his work i.e.
> setting up TYPO3 Multishops so that we will have TYPO3 Shop solutions all
> over to promote TYPO3, than they probably already started testing out
> Drupal Commerce which is a real great and flexible solution with lots of
> available Templates and ready to use and start with distributions which build
> on it!
> 
> I would not wonder if you now wait longer than 8 months to get again more
> than 40 votes for this patch!
> 
> Perhaps best would be to contact those people directly and ask them if they
> are still with TYPO3 and could test the patch!
> 
> jm2c
> 
> Andi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:54 AM, Andreas Becker <ab.becker at web.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for letting us know Markus
> >
> > It is mainly a communicational Problem as we simply did not hear or
> > read any message that a patch has been applied and is ready for testing!
> > I guess those 40 other people simply don't know about it either. But
> > you are absolutely right about what you said as you are only one of
> > many with similar experiences and many of them already left TYPO3 to
> > focus on usability for their customers rather than waiting that TYPO3
> > will be much more than a developer tool for the rich!
> >
> > "Very disappointing in terms of community!"
> > "We put millions of dollars and thousands of dollars to try to turn
> > the
> > TYPO3 ship and it made just a little difference"
> > "Well, we have sold TYPO3 to many churches over the years and very few
> > love it and most have dumped it and got to WordPress or something
> > else. That is just the truth"
> > "Yes, we lose some great features when we don't use TYPO3 but TYPO3 is
> > all about features and not about the users"
> > "Why not go to WordPress and get work done instead of fighting the
> > tool to do the work"
> > "I don't think they TYPO3 developers want TYPO3 to be easy because
> > they will lose development money it remains a paid website developer
> > tool for people who sell fancy websites to others and make lots of money."
> > "Setting up a Drupal base site gives you a result you can continue to
> > work for your project in minutes while TYPO3 often blocks you right at
> > the installation process"
> > "TYPO3 is a great tool for those who don't want to do fancy things
> > with their websites. You have much more flexibility in Drupal 7 and
> > since big NGOs and Governments switched to Drupal it is are very
> > secure tool. In Drupal 8 even Frontend Editing is coming so Editors
> > don't have anymore the need of a page tree as they can edit their
> > content right in place - inline!"
> > "To be honest I would say, the TYPO3 Community has let us down."
> > "At Typo3 they don't give a rats ass about user friendlyness. Neither
> > for developers nor for editors. That's why it losing market share so
> > fast, it's not competitive anymore with the likes of Drupal or Wordpress."
> > ...
> > and you will find many more
> >
> > TYPO3 has actually since beginning a nice slogan "Inspire to share"
> > and the Drupal community has brought it to what could be since years
> > already in
> > TYPO3 - They are talking about the Drupal ECO System. and believe me
> > it is a real great experiencing it as it is real and not NATO like at
> > TYPO3. (No Action Talk Only).
> >
> > Never mind we have not given up TYPO3 completely.
> > So let's have a look to the patch!
> >
> > Thanks for your work!
> >
> > Andi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Markus Klein <klein.t3 at mfc-linz.at>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  <http://forge.typo3.org/issues/44825>
> > http://forge.typo3.org/issues/44825now has a patch
> > > https://review.typo3.org/23788 since 5 days.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The ticket has 45 votes, 10 watchers, Helmut and I created a patch
> > > and
> > now
> > > 5 days later we do not even have a single review!
> > >
> > > This is very very sad. Everybody is shouting loud and once we
> > > finally manage to provide a solution for this rather critical part
> > > of the Core, nobody is willing to test?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Very disappointing in terms of community!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ Markus
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Markus Klein
> > >
> > > TYPO3 CMS Active Contributors Team Member
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: cocopapa at gmail.com [mailto:cocopapa at gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> > Andreas
> > > Becker
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > To: Markus Klein; TYPO3 English
> > > Subject: Re: [TYPO3-english] Re: Templavoila
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://forge.typo3.org/issues/37208
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://forge.typo3.org/issues/44825#change-166894
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Markus Klein <klein.t3 at mfc-linz.at>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Andreas!
> > >
> > > Would you be so kind and give us  the links to these "blocking"
> > non-merged
> > > patches?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind regards
> > > Markus
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Markus Klein
> > > TYPO3 CMS Active Contributors Team Member
> > >
> > >
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