[TYPO3-english] Typo 3 Opportunities

Jigal van Hemert jigal at xs4all.nl
Thu Oct 15 10:08:15 CEST 2009


Hi Andi,

Since you mention my name somewhere, I am taking the trouble to respond.

Andreas Becker wrote:
>>> No need to be rude on the guy who's trying to give someone some
>>> work
> I already thought TYPO3 People have now lost completely all common
> sense of "inspire people to share".

Don't talk about everybody in a single line of text like this! I think
your interpretation of reality is a bit strange; a lot of people spend a
lot of their spare time building things for others and helping others
with their problems.

> It is really up to you to let people know where to post, after they
> posted perhaps for the first time ever on this list and than
> unfortunately on the wrong list!

He managed to find the TYPO3-jobs list, but still decided that it was a
good thing to post to three other lists too. It's generally concidered
bad behaviour to post to multiple lists at the same time. (There are
some exceptions, of course)
I don't think the word "unfortunately" is right in this case.

> Does people know which is the right list? NO
As already said before, he did find TYPO3-jobs, so the answer in his
case should be "YES"...

> Which is the right list?
TYPO3-jobs
> Where is it?
...duh...
> How can people find it?
By reading?
> Are there jobs available?
 From time to time.
> Are people looking at it?
Hard to say with usenet groups, but there are responses to posts, so I
would say "YES"
> Does developers frequent this place?
See previous question.
> Is there a place where all lists get listed?
YES
> is it  E A S Y  to find for NEWBEES or even OLDBEES NO
typo3.org > Community > Mailing lists ... Really, no?
> Does the new TYPO3 reorg team make any progress to change this? NO
> not at all since over 1 1/2 years! since our former team tried to
> change this before people wanted to be "leaders" instead of "sharing
> people"
I can't speak for the reorg team.

All in all it seems that you use a lot of they and them like words, what
is your role in this? Are you part of the team or have you tried to
contribute?

> It gives a lot of people work, so does David Gittings with his post.

Sorry, but people like David are only trying to make money by finding
people for jobs with their clients. These headhunters / recruitement
agencies do not create jobs.
The whole point was that he presented himself as a "Typo 3 placement
specialist"; well, if you are specialized in finding people who are
specialized in a certain product you are expected to know a bit about
that product. Knowing the name is the least you can expect.

> While a handful TYPO3 Developers behave like those Typo 3 Developers
> described by Jigal and Jacco and try to fool around with this posts.
> It is time to excuse yourself to David. I am really sorry for that!

Did you actually read it? Dmitry wondered what "Typo 3" was and I 
remembered seeing a font named "Typo 3"... Is that so bad??

> @ Christian, why don't you help David Gittings to translate his post
> into German and post it on the right place on a German Job Board so
> that many German speaking developers which are unable to speak and
> understand english can take an advantage of his job offer.

Okay, you obviously didn't read David's post at all...
"The company focuses on multinational clients..."
"International Sports/Soccer Tournament website"
I don't think they want people who are unable to understand English?

And by the way, have you translate David's post and posted it on a 
German Job Board yourself?

Enough about this, on with TYPO3...

Regards, Jigal.


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