[TYPO3-english] Magento - Typo3

Simon Browning simon at stwdesign.com
Tue Dec 15 16:51:50 CET 2009

Michael Türk wrote:
> Honestly, you can not really compare those products in points of 
> functionality, flexibility and architecture. You are right, Magento is 
> far more complex and harder to install, configure and do the templating, 
> but you get lots of more stuff out of that system than any other around.
> Additionally, running both, TYPO3 and Magento, on one server is not much 
> harder than running one. With a few optimizations on the server you can 
> easily run quite a lot of instances of Magento, TYPO3 and TypoGento 
> within one server environment (it depends more or less on the expected 
> user numbers).
> Greetings from Karlsruhe
> Michael
> On 2009-05-06 04:12:51 +0200, Andreas Becker <ab.becker at web.de> said:
>> Hi Rick and Georg
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Georg Ringer <mail-spam at ringerge.org> 
>> wrote:
>>> Rik Willems wrote:
>>>> Perhaps a nice place to start some discussion about Magento... I'm very
>>>> much interested in your opinions. Magento is quite new  but I hear good
>>>> things about it. How can I place Magento?
>>> it is the only real open source ecommerce product
>> Sorry Georg, but it is not I guess!
>> There is also Presta Shop which is 100% OpenSource and free. OSL v. 3. 
>> But
>> the biggest benefit in Presta Shop is its size 6MB  - it is very fast and
>> lightwight and you don't need those huge server specs like you would need
>> running Magento and TYPO3 on one server. Check it out! The Presta Shop
>> community is growing more and more and quite fast since Magento 
>> introduced
>> their Business Modell with the very Expensive Enterprise Edition.
>> A similar commercial Model has also the German Oxid Shop - the Oxid 
>> Shop is
>> also OpenSource! http://www.oxid-esales.com/ . The community edition is
>> released under GPL v3. Oxid has just been rewarded with the first 
>> price on
>> the OSBA in Nuernberg - http://www.osbf.de/en/node/1466
>>>> How does it compare with
>>>> tt_products or commerce?
>>> hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahha
>>> hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahaha
>>> .....
>>> it is like you would compare dreamwever to TYPO3, at least with
>>> tt_products.
>>>> Other thing I heard is that templating for Magento is hard. Some stuff
>>>> seems to be hard coded in stead of templated. Can anyone confirm this?
After that long change of responses, was the original question ever 
addressed?  That is getting the "TYPOGENTOSOAP API Error: Access denied" 
in the backend of TYPO3 when using the plugin.

It used to work fine for us but then just stopped one day.  It may be 
related to a php upgrade, not sure though.



>>> templates are a mixture of php and html, hardcoded is wrong.. there are
>>> many templates because of so many features
>>> I like it a lot
>> Like Georg said it is quite complex the templating and until you get
>> accustomed with it is a bit a pain in the ass IMHO. But as soon as you
>> figured out where to find what its fine.
>> You really can't compare tt_products or commerce with a Shop solution 
>> like
>> Magento, Presto or Oxid. You won't compare a Bobby Car (Commerce) with a
>> Porsche (Presto) or a Rolls Royce (Magento). The last two are stand alone
>> applications with lots of features you will perhaps never find in 
>> commerce
>> or any other TYPO3 addon extension. The main purpose of these shop 
>> solutions
>> is to sell stuff and not to have a shop inside another CMS like with
>> commerce. Use typogento and you will have Magento running inside TYPO3 
>> quite
>> smoothly without that people notice that the shopping power is Magento 
>> - But
>> you will need a very good server to run both applications on it!
>> Andi

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