[TYPO3] Mailing list or forum?

[ben van 't ende [netcreators]]

Wow Steffen!

What an accurate description of history. I must admit I almost forgot about how 
cool this was ;-) I have been talking with Steffen Kamper a lot about this and 
we came up with the idea to have a submission form on support.typo3.org that 
also posts to the mailinglist. SK has already put a lot of unpaid effort into 
the nntp reader and TYPO3 in general for which he deserves mucho credit. I have 
tried several times to get sponsoring from the TYPO3 association for this 
feature, which failed because of bureaucratic reasons as I see it. It would seem 
to me that this feature will really be a necessary addition to the communicaton 
channels of TYPO3.org. I am forwarding this once again to the TYPO3 association 
hoping that your story will add some extra weight.

gRTz

ben



Steffen Müller wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On 14.09.2008 17:02 H. Hahn wrote:
>> After all, news groups are popular within inly a limited group of
>> internet users. Many serious web developers do not use news groups and
>> consequently have no experience with them. Forums are much more
> 
> Here's a little story about what happened the past few years on this "we
> need a forum" issue:
> 
> Some years ago, there was a section on typo3.org [1], which provided all
> the forum stuff you were begging for. It had colors, threads, search
> bars, self-explaining forms and list views,
> make-a-faq-out-of-this-thread buttons and even mailing list
> synchronisation for the prehistoric and/or non-serious - especially
> Kasper, who used to answer on each bugreport by personal e-mail.
> With TYPO3 then getting more and more popular, the number of postings
> grew exponential. The TYPO3 driven forum couldn't manage the increasing
> flow of "newbee agony" and became slower and slower. In the end, the
> performance issues got out of control and the forum was taken offline [2].
> 
> Shortly afterwards, the whining about the missing forum started, but
> nobody was willing to manage the refactoring of the forum on a TYPO3
> basis. Instead, some kind of "free-as-in-beer" proprietary java tool was
> hyped and became part of the typo3.org subdomain family. But the project
> failed very soon. I can't rememeber exactly why, but guess there were
> some unresolveable but free-as-in-beer technical issues.
> 
> Thanks to the contribution of Steffen Kamper, we now have a new forum,
> which is again based on TYPO3 [3]. Basic features are implemented, we
> can read and search postings. More features to come, and as always, more
> contributions welcome. To make it a "real forum system" for the "serious
> web developers", this projects "consequently" requires sponsoring in
> terms of constructive criticism, code or money.
> 
> I can't remember when the newsserver was exactly started [4], but it
> gave us the opportunity to easily read, post and search all archived
> postings since 2003 of all(!) TYPO3 lists/groups with one tool at a
> maximum of speed. It was flexible, stable and fast most of the time, no
> matter how much the number of postings were growing. We even did not
> need to worry about presentation, because one could choose his/her
> favorite client (even web based ajax solutions).
> 
> My personal summary of the story: In the long run, the newsnet
> architecture promises to be a stable basis, as it has proved in the
> past. A forum would need more helping hands and has to prove to be
> stable with growing demands and features.
> 
> 
> [1] http://web.archive.org/web/20040219104347/http://typo3.org/1422.0.html
> [2] http://web.archive.org/web/20060221142433/http://typo3.org/1422.0.html
> [3] http://support.typo3.org/
> [4]
> http://web.archive.org/web/20050319133844/http://typo3.org/community/mailing-lists/use-a-news-reader/
> 


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