[TYPO3] Typo3 listserv complaints

[Andreas Becker]

Hi Christopher
This is right, you can learn a lot of things and you can delete the rest -
but the point here is that at the moment nearly each message we send to the
mailinglist server gets replied by an error message that the message could
not be submitted - but actually it is also appearing on the list.

It is more a technical or human resource and qualification problem of those
people and infrastructure who manage the mailing list server.
Those messages which are really annoying could be solved easily if somebody
would simply doing it and only those people who have access to the mailing
server might be able doing it! If not it would be advised that the
assoiciation changes the mailing list server to a better hoster who has
qualified people to manage this huge amount of traffic.

@Dimitry
We had this discussion before so we don't need to talk over this again and
again.
Right now it is more and more obvious that nearly everything gets managed by
punkt.de - but TYPO3 is a Community stuff and not related to punkt.de. Huge
traffic is also a good thing to get leads to get "free advertising" and
more. I am really wondering why always punkt.de gets all those stuff and no
other company! IMHO it would be much better if more people could get
involved also in the hosting stuff.

Punkt.de might be a nice Partner for TYPO3 but I am sure that out there are
a lot of others who also would take the role of punkt.de or share it with
others! Since this year - and it comes together with the repository and
mailinglist problems - when punkt.de tries to concentrate everything related
to TYPO3 on their servers it seems that this is simply to much for them.
They can't manage such amount!
So it would be advised to split it up again. A project like TYPO3 needs to
be reliable and having good connections, especially since other CMS and Open
Source Solutions are catching up faster and faster. So errors in the
repository or document server like in the last months shouldn't happen so
often like they do right now and also the mailinglist shouldn't be a
spam-producer in error-messages which actually send out errors even there
wasn't an error.

TYPO3 is a community based project and that's what it should be also in
future, therefore integrate the community instead of promoting more and more
"the one and only" Companies or People. I guess many people don't know what
is all managed where - and who is responsible for what, so perhaps someone
could list it here.

Mailinglist is Luc de Louw like Stefen just wrote
Repository?
Documentations not published in TER even they are there?
...

Andi

2008/9/7 Christopher Torgalson <bedlamhotel at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> On 7-Sep-08, at 10:24 AM, Dmitry Dulepov [typo3] wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > ries van Twisk wrote:
> >> I am glad that I am not the only one with this problem. May be we
> >> should
> >> escalate this to the
> >> association and them talk to the punkt people??
> >
> > So, newsreader is absolutely not an option?
>
> Speaking for myself, I am far more likely to try to answer questions
> on the list if they show up in my inbox--and as my mail client is not
> also a newsreader, there's not much chance of my starting up an
> application that is *never* used for any other purpose just to answer
> questions on the newsgroup. In other words: for a lot of people,
> receiving, reading and responding to email messages is part of the
> daily workflow, but reading and posting to newsgroups is not. This is
> why some people *like* the mailing list.
>
> Besides that, over the years I've learned an *incredible* amount of
> TYPO3-related things just by reading the messages that show up in my
> inbox on a daily basis. I think subscribing to the mailing list is a
> pretty great way to learn about TYPO3 (if you can handle the number of
> messages it sends out!)
>
> --
> Christopher Torgalson
> http://www.typo3apprentice.com/
>
>
>
>
>
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