[TYPO3] Typo3 listserv complaints

Andreas Becker ab.becker at web.de
Sun Sep 7 04:33:32 CEST 2008 

Good idea Ries
By the way I receive your mails always in 2 copies ;-)

Andi

2008/9/7 ries van Twisk <typo3 at rvt.dds.nl>

>
> On Sep 6, 2008, at 9:24 PM, Andreas Becker wrote:
>
> > Ries it seems since Typo3 Association is everything concentrating on
> > the
> > punkt.de servers. That the Hoster or Agency Punkt.de is simply not
> > able to
> > manage such a big amount of requests on there servers - either
> > because they
> > have perhaps an outdated infrastructure or no qualified staff or both.
> > Perhaps the TYPO3 Association should move to a higher qualified and of
> > course more reliable provider/hoster then punkt.de. IMHO - I receive
> > the
> > same messages after each of my mails too and this really sucks as
> > you never
> > know if the message wents on the list or not!
> > Andi
>
> Hey Andi,
>
> I am glad that I am not the only one with this problem. May be we
> should escalate this to the
> association and them talk to the punkt people??
>
> Ries
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > 2008/9/7 ries van Twisk <typo3 at rvt.dds.nl>
> >
> >>
> >> On Sep 6, 2008, at 8:46 PM, ries van Twisk wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:34 AM, bernd wilke wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> on Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:29:44 -0500, ries van Twisk wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 5, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Lamb, Brian wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> While I appreciate such a thing being in existence, I have a few
> >>>>>> complaints about the way this listserv works.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1)       A discussion forum would be 100x easier to use and
> >>>>>> navigate
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't agree... I find any mail message in my mailbox 100times
> >>>>> faster
> >>>>> then any forum, thanks to spotlight.
> >>>>> Also I can move mail message to my permanent local storage to be
> >>>>> used
> >>>>> offline (yes, there are people that
> >>>>> don't have internet 100% of the day).
> >>>>
> >>>> a newsreader gets all headers in your selected groups on start or
> >>>> on
> >>>> button-click. This is done in that moment you have time and
> >>>> interest
> >>>> and
> >>>> start the newsreader.
> >>>> each newsreader can be configured when to delete messages from
> >>>> local
> >>>> store, you also can hold all headers and request each posting which
> >>>> is
> >>>> still available on the server (and for the TYPO3-NGs there is no
> >>>> deletion
> >>>> at all)
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2)       Every time I send a message to the listserv, it goes
> >>>>>> through
> >>>>>> but I still get a message not received email back
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeaa that sucks... the sys-admins at PUNKT.DE (is that who
> >>>>> maintains
> >>>>> mail these days??)
> >>>>> don't seems to care about typo3 mail services at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no problems with newsreader ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> bernd
> >>>
> >>> it doesn't mean it needs to be solved.
> >>>
> >>> Although I have enough memory in my machine.. I don't want to have a
> >>> other program
> >>> active in my computer just to read mail from TYPO3 because there
> >>> mail
> >>> services sucks <begin rant> I still
> >>> get my mail bounced and although many times mentioned and I even
> >>> send
> >>> mail to postmaster at at whatever dot de
> >>> it still doesn't get solved, looks really un-profesisonal to me />
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think the bottom line of these whole tread is that individual
> >>> users
> >>> prefers there own methods
> >>> of following the treads on the several mailing list.
> >>> Whatever it is, forum, mail or 'use a new reader dude!!!' The main
> >>> question is if there is somebody with the experience
> >>> to connect them all together and make everybody happy. May be the
> >>> association can support a server or 2 for this??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                      regards, Ries van Twisk
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> HERE WE GO AGAIN:
> >>
> >> This is the mail system at host lists.netfielders.de.
> >>
> >> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> >> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
> >>
> >> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
> >>
> >> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> >> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
> >>
> >>                  The mail system
> >>
> >> <typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de>: mail forwarding loop for
> >>   typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de
> >> Reporting-MTA: dns; lists.netfielders.de
> >> X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 70E0F8774041
> >> X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; typo3 at rvt.dds.nl
> >> Arrival-Date: Sun,  7 Sep 2008 04:00:25 +0200 (CEST)
> >>
> >> Final-Recipient: rfc822; typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de
> >> Original-Recipient: rfc822;typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de<rfc822%3Btypo3-english at lists.netfielders.de>
> <rfc822%3Btypo3-english at lists.netfielders.de<rfc822%253Btypo3-english at lists.netfielders.de>
> >> >
> >> Action: failed
> >> Status: 5.4.6
> >> Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; mail forwarding loop for
> >>   typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de
> >>
> >> From: "ries van Twisk" <typo3 at rvt.dds.nl>
> >> Date: September 6, 2008 8:46:52 PM GMT-05:00
> >> To: "TYPO3 English" <typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de>
> >> Subject: Re: [TYPO3] Typo3 listserv complaints
> >> Reply-To: TYPO3 English <typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Andi
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>
>                         regards, Ries van Twisk
>
>
>
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