[TYPO3] Documentation nightmare

[Dan Osipov]

 > What books did you try as beginners-guide?

The first book I read was "Building Websites with TYPO3" by Michael 
Peacock. It was a very basic introduction. Then I read through the 
guides on the main documentation page (inside Typo3, modern template 
building, etc). Those confused the heck out of me, and I had to reread 
them several times!

 > Would it help you if we had a matrix in TER what shows the grade you
 > need for each manual?
 >
 > I see these steps of learners:
 > * beginner/newcommer/newbee/rookie
 > * intermediate learner
 > * advanced learner
 > * advanced/sophisticated
 > * professional

Yes it would help, very much!

Thanks!
Dan

Daniel Bruessler wrote:
> Hello Dan,
> 
>> I am going through the same thing you have Dmitry, and am extremely 
>> frustrated, like many others. I think there should be a guide, that 
>> explains things in order, and gets more complex as it goes, building 
>> up in previous material. This will eliminate the problem of doing 
>> tutorials without really understanding the logic behind them.
> 
> thank you for sharing your thoughts. The problem of beginners is that 
> the tutorials are mainly for advanced learners or professionals.
> 

> 

> 
> Cheers!
> Daniel
> 
>> Dan
>> Dmitry Dulepov [typo3] wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Peter Kindström wrote:
>>>> Look what other CMS:es has got, for example I found this 10 seconds 
>>>> after visiting http://help.joomla.org/
>>>>
>>>> -----------
>>>> Official Documentation
>>>>  * The Official Joomla! 1.5 Help Screens
>>>>  * The Official Installation Manual for Joomla! 1.5
>>>>  * The Official User Manual for Joomla! 1.5
>>>>  * The Official Administrator Manual for Joomla! 1.5
>>>>  * Other related guides and reference material ...
>>>> -----------
>>>>
>>>> This is what I believe Typo3 is missing and should be putting effort 
>>>> on! And that is what I think the docTeam should concentrate on. Even 
>>>> if I think your work also are needed.
>>>
>>> Good point!
>>>
>>> When I started with TYPO3 I tried to follow tutorials, which I did 
>>> mechanically without real understanding what I do. Next I tried TS by 
>>> example, which I could not understand either. Next I tried MTB and 
>>> found that it looks logical but still too complex. FTB was much 
>>> better (may be because TV is much easier). But I still it would be 
>>> perfect to have small simple tutorials. May be even "How to" or 
>>> "TYPO3 for dummies".
>>>