[TYPO3] Documentation nightmare

[Daniel Bruessler]

Hello Dan,

> I am going through the same thing you have Dmitry, and am extremely 
> frustrated, like many others. I think there should be a guide, that 
> explains things in order, and gets more complex as it goes, building up 
> in previous material. This will eliminate the problem of doing tutorials 
> without really understanding the logic behind them.

thank you for sharing your thoughts. The problem of beginners is that 
the tutorials are mainly for advanced learners or professionals.

What books did you try as beginners-guide?

Would it help you if we had a matrix in TER what shows the grade you 
need for each manual?

I see these steps of learners:
* beginner/newcommer/newbee/rookie
* intermediate learner
* advanced learner
* advanced/sophisticated
* professional

Cheers!
Daniel

> Dan
> Dmitry Dulepov [typo3] wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> Peter Kindström wrote:
>>> Look what other CMS:es has got, for example I found this 10 seconds 
>>> after visiting http://help.joomla.org/
>>>
>>> -----------
>>> Official Documentation
>>>  * The Official Joomla! 1.5 Help Screens
>>>  * The Official Installation Manual for Joomla! 1.5
>>>  * The Official User Manual for Joomla! 1.5
>>>  * The Official Administrator Manual for Joomla! 1.5
>>>  * Other related guides and reference material ...
>>> -----------
>>>
>>> This is what I believe Typo3 is missing and should be putting effort 
>>> on! And that is what I think the docTeam should concentrate on. Even 
>>> if I think your work also are needed.
>>
>> Good point!
>>
>> When I started with TYPO3 I tried to follow tutorials, which I did 
>> mechanically without real understanding what I do. Next I tried TS by 
>> example, which I could not understand either. Next I tried MTB and 
>> found that it looks logical but still too complex. FTB was much better 
>> (may be because TV is much easier). But I still it would be perfect to 
>> have small simple tutorials. May be even "How to" or "TYPO3 for dummies".
>>