[TYPO3] urgent help needed [OT: real names]

[Tyler Kraft]

Christopher, Ries

I agree with both of you fully and completely!

All I was saying was that its not unreasonable to assume that a name 
like Rocky could probably be a pseudonym. And to be honest I think 
requesting someone use their real name is acceptable. Once Dmitry 
realised it was a real name then he was fine with it, as am I. We never 
had a problem with Rockys name, someone just needed to actually say 
"that is his real name" - but Ian's post seemed rather more like an 
accusation in anger for mistaking a name.

And at the same time Christopher, you have to also understand that while 
if someone named  Sang-jin or Sang-zin posted on the list, it is far 
more easy to discern that that is probably a more likely real name than 
Rocky. That's not to say there is anything wrong with Rocky's name, its 
just far more likely to be used as a pseudonym on an english list then 
Sang-zin or Sang-jin.

I certainly didn't mean to step on anyones toes or be insulting to 
*either* Rocky, Ian or anyone else if it came across that way.

Anyway, lets all moving on....





Christopher wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 10/18/06, Tyler Kraft <headhunterxiii at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Calm down Ian...
>>
>> There has to be some basis or judgement, and it is common sense, and I'm
>> sorry but Dmitry is correct in assuming that Rocky Ou would more likely
>> than not be someones real name!
>>
>> I'm sure that Dmitry didn't mean any offence at all, he merely didn't
>> believe that it was a real name. And tbh I didn't either (I thought it
>> was a pseudonym as usually that's what people use on a ML).
>>
>>
>>
>> cousins at cousins wrote:
>> > Except that he didn't hide his identity .. his name _is_ Rocky Ou - you
>> > made an assumption that his name was a nome-de-plume - when will you
>> > guys accept that not everyone has a name like Franz or Dmitry or 
>> John or
>> > Ian.....
>> >
> 
> I'm wth Ian: you guys have NO IDEA WHATSOEVER if this is or is not a
> real name. There have definitely been occasions on the lists where
> people have been upbraided for using names that I'm quite sure were
> real.* This is just one of the reasons why the real name hysteria on
> the TYPO3 lists is so bizarre.
> 
> It's perfectly acceptable for the list rules to /request/ that users
> add their real names to messages, but it's pointless--and sometimes
> just plain insulting--the way that people try to /enforce/ it as an
> absolute requirement.
> 
> Besides the problem of accusing users of using made up names when they
> are in fact real, there is also the problem that some users may have
> /good reasons/ for not using their full real name on this list. Is it
> really so difficult to understand that a TYPO3 enthusiast who, for
> example works for a commercial CMS vendor, might not want their
> employer to be able to easily discover (anyone familiar with Google?)
> that he or she spends his or her free time developing or promoting a
> competing product?
> 
> Add to all of this the nasty tone these discussions sometimes
> take--for example, I was essentially threatened with the possibility
> of expulsion from the HCI list for this reason last week--and the
> insistence that people use their real names because "we're a friendly
> list" seems at times rather hollow.
> 
> 
> -Christopher
> 
> 
> 
> * Made-up example--which name cannot possibly be a Korean name?
> 
> Sang-jin
> Sang-zin
> 
> If you can't tell, you've got no business telling people with strange
> or unfamiliar names to use their real names instead!