[TYPO3] No tutorials? Draft idea attached...

[Tyler Kraft]

Its not the questions its the complaining that irritates. ;-)

Jamie Lawrence Jenner wrote:
> Hi Tyler
> 
> I agree with your point of view, there needs to be docs aimed towards to
> newbies.
> 
> Unfortuntely until these docs materialise, then we are all going to have to
> put up
> with the newbie questions, its not their fault
> 
> I hope to release some docs very soon and will post when i have re written
> them
> 
> Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: typo3-english-bounces at lists.netfielders.de
> [mailto:typo3-english-bounces at lists.netfielders.de]On Behalf Of Tyler
> Kraft
> Sent: 06 October 2006 10:02
> To: typo3-english at lists.netfielders.de
> Subject: Re: [TYPO3] No tutorials? Draft idea attached...
> 
> 
> Actually I don't think it is possible to get typo3 powerful and complex
> and easy to learn. I understand very well the way a car works, but thats
> probably because I have been tinkering with them for years and I have a
> mechanical engineering degree.... But I would struggle to sit down and
> build one! The point being that with a lot of effort and hard work and
> experience someone can understand how something works, but it takes much
> beyond that to create the item (or in this case create with the item).
> Meanwhile just about anyone can be taught how to use the item (drive a
> car or edit content with a cms)
> 
> So I think if we want to make it easier to learn we need to start to
> realise that there are different needs within the CMS, and also
> therefore different documentation needed depending on the need of the
> CMS. So if all the documentation is written from the perspective of the
> high end user or developer (often also one and the same) then that
> doesn't mean the current documentation is at fault, it means that it
> doesn't serve that particular segment of the market/user.
> 
> So I'm not defending the documentation as it currently stands... at
> least in my own personal opinion I'm just tired of people whining and
> complaining about how hard it is and how the documentation is so bad!
> How often do we see someone say "The documentation on XXX is so bad that
> here I've written this" - Never!
> 
> If the documentation is hard to understand for a newbie then why don't
> some of them write documentation that does suit their needs instead of
> expecting others to do it?
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Kindström wrote:
>> Hi!
>>> Maybe, I'm missing the point - if you want typo3's power and flexibility,
>>> you have to just get on with the learning curve. It will get better, but
>>> it’s a slow process.
>> But... is it really not possible to get Typo3 powerful, complex AND easy
>> to learn? Couldn´t that be one of our goals? Instead of just "ignoring"
>> the problems and defending todays documentation and learning curve.
>>
>> I want to improve TYPO3, not conserve it!
>>
>>
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