[Typo3] WG: Speedprobs of websideloading under Typo3

Fri Sep 9 09:29:49 CEST 2005

Hello guys,

Thx alot for your great help guys!
We figured out the main problem.
The main problem is coming out if we 

It consists of the fact that we merge content of a partner and the delivery
from the partner host to us is working not right somewhere.  
But we cannot recognize where exactly.  
The content is generated with a simple PHP script - let it call as example
"PATRNER.PHP".  
If we run this script directly on the host of the partner the results are
very fast. 
We bind this content in Typo over a Template with the function
"PHP_SCRIPT_EXT" simply.  

temp.XX.20 = PHP_SCRIPT_EXT
temp.XX.20.file = /XXX.inc

Behind the PHP script XXX.inc hides itself only an include which the PHP
script of the partner host also merges:  
<?
include 'http://www.PARTNERCONTENT.de/PARTNER.php'
?>

And the delivery is making anywhere big problem. Cause the generating of
this website is going so slow.
Does someone has a tip how I can accelerate that Typoprocess?  
Here perhaps would a Cacheaktivierung be meaningful and if which exactly?

Thx alot in advance for your help!

Cya Micha 

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Gesendet: 09 September 2005 01:16
An: TYPO3 English
Betreff: Re: [Typo3] Speedprobs of websideloading under Typo3

Rob De Vries wrote:

>Hey Michael ,
>
>Sorry to say this but your source is a big mess.
>All the css that's in your <head> can be placed in an external file 
>Looks like you use tmenu_layer or gmenu_layer for your navigation that 
>gives alot of internal JS A mix of css and (ooh so 1996) font tags.
>Tables in tables in tables wrapped in div's and tables.
>javacript this, javascript that ...
>
>All this code has to be generated by Typo and rendered by my browser 
>and you acpect this to be a fast loaded website. That's like asking an 
>elephant to win a kano competition,  he just won't win ;)
>
>try fixing these things first, clean up your output code, use some 
>better coding techniques (for ex. don't use those font tags, use css) 
>and you will get yourself a faster loaded website without changing php 
>accellerators, fast high end servers etc..
>
>So start looking for the sollution at the "source"
>
>  
>
Rob,

I partly agree with this... I think the origional question was not about
rendering in the browser, but the speed that typo3 can throw up a page to a
client.

tmenu_layers is horrible... thanks to some people here on the list I managed
(on devel still) to get my page size down from 77Kb down to 37Kb. The menu
looks almost exacly the same..
Marlies did a wonderfull job documenting a simple 'how-to' , Michael here
you can find it if you use tmenu_layers...
http://www.mcuniverse.com/05/Horizontal_Bulletli.57.0.htm

In my situation, even with cached pages it did only gave me around 5
pages/sec.
Now with eAccelerator (highly recommended!!) it gives me between
22-28pages/sec.
I tuned mysql to cache queries, I turned of Access Timestamp on the server I
ain't sure if I can optimize apache2.x to...

Doing a measurement (we have done this from several locations) on typo3.org
will show 40pages/sec. Considering that typo3.org 'should' be optimized and
it has new hardware I still consider this not speedy I think you need to
agree with this..

So I agree totally, page optimalisations help a lot, it helped in my
case!!!!
But I don't think we  can fairly say it's also typo3 that can be in some
situations (amouth of loaded extentions, numbers of TS scripts, using
user_int
objects) be slow in generating pages...

I am still trying to figure out, when I don't feel like writing code what
makes typo3 slow in some situations...

Ries

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