[Typo3] frames and templavoila
kester at featherbelly.com
Fri Mar 4 20:20:00 CET 2005
No worries - just a couple of comments on the use of frames.
Frames are deprecated now and for very good reason...
- They are terrible for search engine optimization
- They cause a lot navigation issues
- They cause accessibility problems (making it imperative to include
"noframes" content and workarounds)
- They are not very good for tight layouts
Have a look here: http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#frames
In these modern times of CSS-positioning and table-layout deprecation it
seems like a bad idea to fall back on frames when we have so many better
options. Don't get me wrong - I agree that tables and frames have their
uses. Tables are the only way to layout data for example. And imagine
the Typo3 backend without frames... But the Typo3 back-end is not
designed to be spidered by search engines or used with screen readers!
Anyway - best of luck with your problem and I hope you find a workable
Have a good weekend! :)
> JoH wrote:
> >>Flash is cached by the browser so wouldn't have to "reload"
> as such.
> >>Also you can pass the flash movie a variable telling it to skip any
> >>preload sequence for sub-pages - flash can communicate with
> PHP so you
> >>can store sessions variables... There are a lot of ways around this
> >>without resorting to frames - look at the Macromedia site - flash
> >>movies and HTML and not a frame in site!!
> > One thing can't be done without frames:
> > The flash movie will not stay playing on top of the page while the
> > rest of the page reloads. So it will restart in any case,
> even though
> > you might skip some sequences.
> Correct. I think this is what they want - don't restart the sequence
> each page reload.
> But maybe we can set session variables from the flash plugin
> to detect
> the state and not start from the beginning each time.
> > And of course this is one thing frames are meant for:
> Reloading only
> > portions of the page while the rest stays in place. Since
> using frames
> > (and those "evil" tables) is not forbidden and even part of XHTML
> > compliance, why not use them when it makes sense?
> > Joey
> Thank you both for the options. In any case I am still open to the
> frame based approach if a good one exists. I'll mention the flash
> session stuff to my people and see what they think.
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