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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Stephane,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>I think this would be a fantastic idea! Having
just recently come to Typo3 as a newbie I was very impressed by it's
functionality but felt all the standard examples were very out of date. In the
end I used MTB as my model, but have since had loads of problems getting
extensions to work. e.g. the guestbook etc. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>This leads on to my thoughts regarding the
tutorials in particular:-</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>1) They have gaps - you get through the MTB p1 and
then hit MTB p2 and are expected to design an extension! I personally just
wanted to get my website working with basic functionality and with basic
extensions (e.g. news, guestbook, links list etc. etc.) In the end I found the
templ_select extension ready buit and hacked about to get it to
work.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>2) It would be best if the tutorials were
orientated in building the sample sites!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>3) The samples / tutorials should use the latest
methodologies as you suggest. This will encourage people to use Typo3 and also
perhaps encourage those people who are developing the temp-voila and css_styles
etc to continue their good work and stablise these essential tools.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>So, if you do go ahead to build the sample sites,
perhaps you could make some notes as to how/what you did with a view to them
becoming a comprehensive tutorial taking someone from newbie to competent?
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Typo3 is fantastic, but painful to learn, more
painful than it needs to be or should be.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Now, putting money where my mouth is: I would be
more than happy to test your tutorials and samples as a newbie user!
:-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Best Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Matt</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"Stephane Schitter" <<A
href="mailto:stephane.schitter@free.fr">stephane.schitter@free.fr</A>>
wrote in message <A
href="news:mailman.500.1085002222.242.typo3-dev@lists.netfielders.de">news:mailman.500.1085002222.242.typo3-dev@lists.netfielders.de</A>...</DIV>Hello,<BR><BR>After
the talks about rebuilding a new Extension Manager, an idea came to my<BR>mind
- shouldn't we also redesign a few standard templates that will be
shipped<BR>by default with Typo3, something that looks a bit more current, or
uses for<BR>example CSS or other nice features introduced since the original
templates were<BR>built ?<BR><BR>The two things I remember from when I first
discover Typo3 are:<BR>"wow that backend interface looks great!"<BR>"hmmm...
How could anyone want to use these templates for their website"<BR><BR>and I
guess some (non professionnal) people may just want to use Typo3 to
build<BR>some kind of generic website, with some kind of standard but still
classy look,<BR>and a review / rebuild of standard templates would help get
them onboard. Even<BR>if it was just for them to test how Typo3 works before
embarking on a<BR>TemplaVoila expedition or the like.<BR><BR>Comments
welcome.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Stephane<BR><BR>P.S. Yes I'd volunteer to work on
that if the need is there. However be warned<BR>that I am nowhere near a good
designer, but I want to help, I like Typo3 a
lot<BR>!<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>